mmarshall

Yes, I understand that. What I was pointing out was that there are two sides to many stories, including that one...and, often, both of them are credible.

And I have to make a correction to an earlier post.......I have actually known three people, not one, that had vehicles catch fire. The other one was long ago, that I had forgot...a lady friend of mine and her mid-1980s Ford Escort. I had actually driven that car before myself....once on a long trip, when she didn't want to drive herself. Later, it caught fire at her house, and I don't remember what she replaced it with. I had also forgotten the time my brother was driving my late father's 1966 Plymouth and it had a minor engine fire....he was able to put it out by beating it with a blanket.

Toys4RJill

No worries. Yeah, there are two sides of course.

Fizzboy7

Maybe it's a warm weather thing. Here in L.A., I monitor several fire department and Caltrans sites through my phone. Any accident, I get an alert. Some come with video through Facebook. Over the last four years, the majority of car fires on the two local freeways I'm plugged into have been Kias and Hyundais. This is through video I capture on some of the posts thrown to my phone. I wish it weren't the case, but it is.

LeX2K

I trust you extend this courtesy to all auto makers.

mmarshall

You've known me long enough to know what that answer is. I didn't join CL yesterday.

Toys4RJill

Even the EV models catch fire






https://insideevs.com/news/482199/re...-catches-fire/

Wilson2000

Crossing the Genesis off my short list as we speak!

I've dealt with three engine fires in my life, and that's enough! All three were in the same '65 Ford Galaxy that my dad bought new for his parents. When they became too old to drive anymore, my dad made the Galaxy our family car. It seems Ford couldn't get the automatic choke to work properly. I put out the first two fires myself, once when my sister was driving us to high school and once later when I was driving myself to high school. My dad got rid of the old fiery Ford by selling it to his girlfriend. Years later, I bought it back from her. It had caught on fire on her and after it sat for a long time, she wanted out. I fixed it up and sold it to my brother! Besides the burnt paint on the hood, it was in pretty good shape, and the old 390 purred like a kitten when it wasn't aflame!

mmarshall

Hmmm.... it would seem that a bad choke assembly shouldn't necessarily cause an engine fire. The choke merely adjusts the air/fuel mixture inside the carburetor (which, at worst, could cause stumbling/stalling or hard-starting), but, for an engine fire to take place, fuel usually has to be leaking outside the carburetor, onto a hot surface like the exhaust manifolds.

Wilson2000

I believe all three fires occurred when the engine was cold. The automatic choke would cause the engine to flood, then while cranking with the throttle wide open (to counter the flooded condition) a hick-up would allow a back-draft from the combustion chambers to ignite the unspent fuel in the intake manifold and set the carburetor on fire! My dad was an mechanical engineer and worked on the choke repeatedly to prevent this, but to no avail. It was too fine a line to adjust it to choke enough to start the car when cold, but, not so much as to flood it! I had a similar problem with a 1980 Mustang and ended up ripping out the auto choke and installing a manual one. Thank goodness for fuel injection!

mmarshall

Absolutely Thank Goodness for EFI .......I've said that many times in the past. I rate it as the #1 automotive-advancement of my lifetime.....with electronic ignition #2, and car-based AWD #3. It ranks up with the invention of the electric self-starter, which Cadillac first used in 1916.

bitkahuna

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because your dad's ford, 55 years ago caught fire? That's some correlation as to the risk for a genesis catching fire.
remember 'all' those (mostly clickbait) reports of teslas catching fire? They didn't stop sales either.

Wow, what a guy.

Wilson2000

My dad's girlfriend and her family loved the car until it caught fire, probably not unlike Hyundai/Kia/Genesis owners. I'm sure he disclosed the history since there were wicked burn marks on the hood's paint. That said, he was a cheap bastard and likely sold it to her for low Blue Book. In hindsight, he should have given it to her. I profited too when selling it to my brother, but he still reminisces about what a great car it was, and he was just getting out of a factory HP '65 Stang and a '70 Z28!

00goobs

I've replaced a few 2015 Sonata engines that were locked up. The owners claim routine maintenance and I have no reason to doubt them. But, as they were bought used and easily within 50-60k miles, Hyundai wouldn't cover it. Not sure how many factory warranties follow with CPO buyers, but I was almost sold on these brands with their decent performing cars and 100k warranties until I've had to replace several locked up engines. I'm working on a quote for a 2014 Kia Soul with a seized 2.0l engine.

mmarshall

Hyundai's Powertrain warranty is 10/100 for the original buyer, but, for a second-owner, unless that person is a member of the immediate family (father/mother/son/daughter), the drivetrain-warranty reverts to the same as the rest of the vehicle....5/60. It's one of the (IMO) few negative things about owing a Korean-brand vehicle.

Toys4RJill

My brother had his Elantra engine replaced. Entire exhaust went bad as well. His Santa Fe need an engine repair as well...but it was not a full replacement.








Here are some images...look at all the red engine issues.