Hyundai/Kia recalls and lawsuits
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I have to say that I like many of the Hyundai/Genesis/Kia products, myself almost buying a Stinger, had the dealer been able to secure me one. With that said, these recalls do concern me and I'm not sure that I would buy one at this point. My neighbor bought a beautiful G80 only to have to park it outside for months waiting for the recall. He still loves it though. Hopefully they get it all sorted out soon.
As long as people continue to buy their crap Hyundai/Kia/Genesis will continue to issue recalls for potential fires.
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Alternator?
Yes, likely, but not necessarily. Alternators in most vehicles run on belts. A 2016 vehicle is almost 7 years old now, and, if a lot of miles are on it for that age, the belt could (?) be worn and/slipping, allowing RPMs and output of the alternator to underperform. A belt is obviously a lot easier and cheaper to replace than an Alternator.
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I didn't, but it doesn't surprise me. For a long time one of the carwashes here refused to wash Grand Cherokees because of a news story where a Grand Cherokee "ran out of control" through a carwash and killed people. I know because I had Grand Cherokees and they wouldn't wash them. Even when they started to they left the hazards on and a worker rode through the carwash in it, only Grand Cherokees.
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Maybe the garage in question had a Hyundai Palisade light on fire? That could be the reason why they have that sign
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I didn't, but it doesn't surprise me. For a long time one of the carwashes here refused to wash Grand Cherokees because of a news story where a Grand Cherokee "ran out of control" through a carwash and killed people. I know because I had Grand Cherokees and they wouldn't wash them. Even when they started to they left the hazards on and a worker rode through the carwash in it, only Grand Cherokees.
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5 engine families implicated
6 model years
8 recalls of 8.4 million vehicles across 20 models
1 million failure-prone engines
161 confirmed complaints of engine fires
$43 million in remedies levied against Kia and agreed to without a contest
Source: US News
https://www.usnews.com/news/us/artic...ures-and-fires
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For a long time one of the carwashes here refused to wash Grand Cherokees because of a news story where a Grand Cherokee "ran out of control" through a carwash and killed people. I know because I had Grand Cherokees and they wouldn't wash them. Even when they started to they left the hazards on and a worker rode through the carwash in it, only Grand Cherokees.
Still, that incident must have resulted in some pretty-good-sized insurance claims and liability. I wouldn't have wanted to have faced those bills.
That old carwash, BTW, has since been town down and replaced my a new multilevel carwash/Chix Fillet/parking lot
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And, in fact, come to think of it, actor Anton Yeltsin was killed when his Grand Cherokee lurched out of park from a poorly-designed shift lever.
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Since you insisted the evidence had to be "statistical," here's some from the United States Government:
5 engine families implicated
6 model years
8 recalls of 8.4 million vehicles across 20 models
1 million failure-prone engines
161 confirmed complaints of engine fires
$43 million in remedies levied against Kia and agreed to without a contest
Source: US News
https://www.usnews.com/news/us/artic...ures-and-fires
5 engine families implicated
6 model years
8 recalls of 8.4 million vehicles across 20 models
1 million failure-prone engines
161 confirmed complaints of engine fires
$43 million in remedies levied against Kia and agreed to without a contest
Source: US News
https://www.usnews.com/news/us/artic...ures-and-fires
https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...it-2022-10-18/
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A coworker of mine from a few years back had a 2015ish Grand Cherokee Summit. She mentioned one incident where she put the car into Park, but the car started rolling and she couldn't get it to stop until she took the car out of gear and put it back into Park a few times. She had her daughter in the car with her at the time. She traded it in for a Forester shortly after that, because the GC had chronic air suspension issues, and this event was the last straw for her.
Interesting you should say that. There may be some credibiity to that JGC-No-Wash policy. Several years ago (I don't recall how many), that same thing happened at a carwash down the street from my house. I wasn't there to see it, but, from the stories I got from local businesses there, a Jeep supposedly went out of control while coming out of the wash, bounded directly across a 4-lane highway and its divided concrete median, and into a Shell station across street, taking out a brand-new electronic gas-pump that the station had just installed. (it had to be replaced again...took several months). Fortunately, there was no fire or explosion at the station like in the movies, and, as far as I know, no collisions on the highway, which was an extreme stroke of luck because that highway is a crowded major local artery. It was either a Cherokee or a JGC that suddenly jumped forward.....don't recall exactly.
Still, that incident must have resulted in some pretty-good-sized insurance claims and liability. I wouldn't have wanted to have faced those bills.
That old carwash, BTW, has since been town down and replaced my a new multilevel carwash/Chix Fillet/parking lot.
Still, that incident must have resulted in some pretty-good-sized insurance claims and liability. I wouldn't have wanted to have faced those bills.
That old carwash, BTW, has since been town down and replaced my a new multilevel carwash/Chix Fillet/parking lot.
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Since you insisted the evidence had to be "statistical," here's some from the United States Government:
5 engine families implicated
6 model years
8 recalls of 8.4 million vehicles across 20 models
1 million failure-prone engines
161 confirmed complaints of engine fires
$43 million in remedies levied against Kia and agreed to without a contest
Source: US News
https://www.usnews.com/news/us/artic...ures-and-fires
5 engine families implicated
6 model years
8 recalls of 8.4 million vehicles across 20 models
1 million failure-prone engines
161 confirmed complaints of engine fires
$43 million in remedies levied against Kia and agreed to without a contest
Source: US News
https://www.usnews.com/news/us/artic...ures-and-fires
You literally reinforced the very point I was making earlier in the thread. Read the numbers you posted- 161 confirmed complaints of engine fires... out of the 8.4 million recalled vehicles. 161/8.4 million- tell me, is that statistically significant?
The recent DCT recall was far more significant than this. 229 incidents out of 122,000 vehicles, with a stop sale to boot. Of course, recalls for anything catching on fire no matter how statically insignificant and with zero affect on any reliability ranking are what the people in this thread are fixated on lol.
It was announced today that it will cost Hyundai $2 billion for the engine recalls.
https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...it-2022-10-18/
https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...it-2022-10-18/
Last edited by Motorola; 10-18-22 at 12:49 PM.