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Old 12-16-22 | 11:32 PM
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Another recall. Australia

https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/recal...-off-c-9097404
Old 01-20-23 | 10:46 PM
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I can't believe how much pure garbage Hyundai and Kia vehicles are. It's always something with them. People need to take the blinders off and realize that a decent (not what I'd call attractive but looks are heavily subjective) design should not be the only determining factor in a vehicle purchase.
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Palisade and Telluride are on the top of the shortlist for us, and will remain there.
Old 01-22-23 | 02:39 AM
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Palisade and Telluride are on the top of the shortlist for us, and will remain there.
You're going to be awfully disappointed going from top of the line Lexus and Mercedes sedans to a Kia/Hyundai CUV.
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Originally Posted by xjokerz
I can't believe how much pure garbage Hyundai and Kia vehicles are. It's always something with them. People need to take the blinders off and realize that a decent (not what I'd call attractive but looks are heavily subjective) design should not be the only determining factor in a vehicle purchase.
The way I see it, KIA and Hyundai sees the opportunies and are trying to capitalize on it hard. They are one of the few Asian manufacturers who's allowed to sell their cars in the US. I have not seen another company push out so many new designs and models within a few years time.

With all that profit, it might've gotten the best of them. I don't think the recalls are due to metal shavings. I simply think it's due to cost cutting by using lower quality materials.
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Originally Posted by xjokerz
You're going to be awfully disappointed going from top of the line Lexus and Mercedes sedans to a Kia/Hyundai CUV.
I wouldn't replace my Mercedes with a Hyundai/Kia, I would replace my Pacifica with one. I won't be disappointed at all, they are much nicer than the Pacifica. I've had a Kia before, a 2015 Sedona minivan, it was great.

I MIGHT replace my Mercedes with a Genesis G90. We'll see.

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Originally Posted by xGS350x
The way I see it, KIA and Hyundai sees the opportunies and are trying to capitalize on it hard. They are one of the few Asian manufacturers who's allowed to sell their cars in the US. I have not seen another company push out so many new designs and models within a few years time.
To be clear, manufacturers are not "allowed" or "not allowed" to sell in the US. ANY manufacturer can sell in the US they just have to meet US safety standards which are not difficult. Some manufacturers DON'T sell in the US, but thats because they don't want to or have tried and failed.

But, what Asian manufacturers don't sell in the US other than the Chinese companies? Hyundai and Kia have been in the US for 35 years at least. They are working HARD to make a name for themselves and thats one of the things I find attractive about them. I find Toyota/Lexus of the last 10 years or so really resting on their name and that doesn't make me want to buy a car from them.

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Old 01-22-23 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by xGS350x
The way I see it, KIA and Hyundai sees the opportunies and are trying to capitalize on it hard.
That's a good thing IMO
More choices increases is good for the consumer and increases competition too.

It's a win for the consumer.

My mom had a Hyundai Santa Fe with well over 100k and the car wouldn't die.
Per her testimony, the car was super reliable.


Originally Posted by xGS350x
With all that profit, it might've gotten the best of them. I don't think the recalls are due to metal shavings. I simply think it's due to cost cutting by using lower quality materials.
Many recalls are due to pressure from outside forces sometimes.

For anyone following along.
Please compare the major share holders of Hyundai to other popular brands and let me know if you see a pattern.
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Originally Posted by xjokerz
I can't believe how much pure garbage Hyundai and Kia vehicles are.
Relax, smiles. lol
I see ur not a fan and that's cool, nothing wrong with that but you have to admit they've come a long way IMO, oh yeah!

Originally Posted by xjokerz
It's always something with them. People need to take the blinders off and realize that a decent (not what I'd call attractive but looks are heavily subjective) design should not be the only determining factor in a vehicle purchase.
I was walking out of the smoke shop yesterday and a man was getting into his new Telluride.
Have to say, seeing this car up close was impressive.

Didn't know they were so big and paint looked good- dwarfed my RX330.
I agree, looks should not be the only determining factor- pop that hood and take for a test drive too!
At least that's what I do.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
But, what Asian manufacturers don't sell in the US other than the Chinese companies?
Well, let's see. There's Daihatsu, Suzuki, Isuzu (Japan), Daewoo (Korea), Tata, Mahindra (India) and several others. They don't sell in the U.S......at least under their own nameplates. Daihatsu, Suzuki, Isuzu, and Daewoo once did sell here, but pulled out.

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Didn't know they were so big and paint looked good- dwarfed my RX330.
I agree, looks should not be the only determining factor- pop that hood and take for a test drive too!
At least that's what I do.
This is the spec I would get:



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Originally Posted by SW17LS
To be clear, manufacturers are not "allowed" or "not allowed" to sell in the US. ANY manufacturer can sell in the US they just have to meet US safety standards which are not difficult. Some manufacturers DON'T sell in the US, but thats because they don't want to or have tried and failed.

But, what Asian manufacturers don't sell in the US other than Chinese companies? Hyundai and Kia have been in the US for 35 years at least. They are working HARD to make a name for themselves and thats one of the things I find attractive about them. I find Toyota/Lexus of the last 10 years or so really resting on their name and that doesn't make me want to buy a car from them.
I've actually had this convo with a friend. His argument was basically, Chinese or other Asian cars don't meet safety standards.

My argument is much different. China may or may not have met safety standards, but that doesn't make logical sense. How is it that Japan and South Korea - two smaller GDP countries are able to meet safety standards but not China? I believe the US place tariffs and sanctions on countries that aren't "friendly".


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Let's keep any political topics out of the discussions.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
This is the spec I would get:



That interior works for me.



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