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Old 01-23-23 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
This is the spec I would get:



Yeah - that's really nice.
Old 01-23-23 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by xGS350x
I've actually had this convo with a friend. His argument was basically, Chinese or other Asian cars don't meet safety standards.

My argument is much different. China may or may not have met safety standards, but that doesn't make logical sense. How is it that Japan and South Korea - two smaller GDP countries are able to meet safety standards but not China? I believe the US place tariffs and sanctions on countries that aren't "friendly".
Its simple, because they don't want to and don't need to. Toyota makes cars that won't pass US safety standards they just don't sell them here. There are all kinds of multi-passenger vans etc that they sell in different markets. China is such a huge market, a bigger market than the US, that Chinese carmakers don't need to sell their cars in the US.

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Yeah - that's really nice.
Yeah, and $53K!
Old 01-23-23 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Its simple, because they don't want to and don't need to. Toyota makes cars that won't pass US safety standards they just don't sell them here. There are all kinds of multi-passenger vans etc that they sell in different markets. China is such a huge market, a bigger market than the US, that Chinese carmakers don't need to sell their cars in the US.
they don't want to or need but 99% of everything in the US is made in China. Again, I think its a political reason why they can't. But we're not allowed to discuss politics, when it affects trade.
Old 01-23-23 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by xGS350x
they don't want to or need but 99% of everything in the US is made in China. Again, I think its a political reason why they can't. But we're not allowed to discuss politics, when it affects trade.
I'm just talking about cars. Its purely because they don't want to or need to go to the expense of getting their vehicles to conform to US, or other country's safety standards. Note you really don't see Chinese cars sold anywhere outside of China...but we do have other make cars sold here that are built in China. Several Volvos are built in China, a few Buick models...

Other goods aren't subject to the regulatory requirements that cars are.
Old 01-25-23 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
This is the spec I would get:


Funny thing is I don't think the grill and headlights look bad.

I've seen much more obscene lately. lol
Old 01-25-23 | 07:27 PM
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Funny thing is I don't think the grill and headlights look bad.

I've seen much more obscene lately. lol
I think it looks great, nothing obscene about it at all.
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Old 01-25-23 | 07:53 PM
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Ah the Wagon Queen Family Truckster! In metallic pea! If you think you hate it now, wait till you drive it…
Old 01-26-23 | 11:58 AM
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An American icon!
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Originally Posted by tex2670
An American icon!
Ah man, that's just friggin ugly. I mean what was going through people's heads when they drew this design on paper? Let's make it big, square and ugly. And let's give it a big engine to fight that wall of air...

Oh yeah, let's glue fake wood panels all over it, maybe they will think it's real
Old 01-26-23 | 12:12 PM
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lol that was not a real model. That Hyundai reminds me of the Griswoldmobile with its excessive details and doubled up lights.

https://griswoldfamilyvacations.com/...ily-truckster/
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
lol that was not a real model. That Hyundai reminds me of the Griswoldmobile with its excessive details and doubled up lights.

https://griswoldfamilyvacations.com/...ily-truckster/
I see. Well the American version was not much better. My dad had one when I was a kid. Although they were very comfortable and quiet if I remember correctly
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Ah man, that's just friggin ugly. I mean what was going through people's heads when they drew this design on paper? Let's make it big, square and ugly. And let's give it a big engine to fight that wall of air...

Oh yeah, let's glue fake wood panels all over it, maybe they will think it's real
Not sure if serious....
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Not sure if serious....
Yeah, I just found that out...to my embarrassment
Old 01-26-23 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Yeah, I just found that out...to my embarrassment
What's funny is that monstrosity is not far off from the over stuffed barges being made in the 70's.

I don't understand Kia, they need to find a design language and stick to it.



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