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Old 04-12-23, 06:54 AM
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Uh did they not weather seal the pack well enough? "Excessive precipitate" sounds like "we forgot how condensation works" to me.....
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Uh did they not weather seal the pack well enough? "Excessive precipitate" sounds like "we forgot how condensation works" to me.....
My guess is that this issue is just a manufacturing defect. Very unlikely a design flaw.

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U.S. theft claims were nearly twice as common for Hyundai and Kia vehicles compared with all other manufacturers among 2015-2019 model-year vehicles, the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety’s Highway Loss Data Institute said last year.

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They keep pushing the free giveaway "the Club" locks here local to me, but looks like a broader settlement

https://www.reuters.com/legal/hyunda...rs-2023-05-18/

Hyundai, Kia agree to $200 million settlement over US car thefts

By David Shepardson
May 19, 202310:36 AM EDTUpdated 5 days agoThe logo of Hyundai Motor Company is pictured at the New York International Auto Show, in Manhattan, New York City, U.S., April 13, 2022. REUTERS/Andrew KellyWASHINGTON, May 18 (Reuters) - Hyundai Motor (005380.KS) and Kia Corp (000270.KS) agreed to a consumer class-action lawsuit settlement worth $200 million over rampant car thefts of the Korean automakers' vehicles, lawyers for the owners and the automakers said on Thursday.
In February, the Korean automakers said they would offer software upgrades to 8.3 million U.S. vehicles without anti-theft immobilizers to help curb increasing car thefts using a method popularized on TikTok and other social media channels.

The settlement covers about 9 million U.S. owners and includes up to $145 million for out-of-pocket losses for consumers who had cars stolen, lawyers for the owners said.

Hyundai and Kia said they will compensate owners "who incurred theft-related vehicle losses or damage in addition to reimbursement for insurance deductibles, increased insurance premiums, and other theft related losses."

For customers whose vehicles cannot accommodate security software upgrades, the Korean automakers will provide up to $300 for the purchase of steering wheel locks and other theft deterrent or prevention devices.

"The settlement will provide benefits as soon as possible to those who have suffered out-of-pocket losses," said Steve Berman, a lawyer representing owners.

TikTok videos showing how to steal cars without push-button ignitions and immobilizing anti-theft devices has led to at least 14 reported crashes and eight fatalities in the United States, regulators said in February.

The consumer settlement covers owners of 2011 through 2022 model year Hyundai or Kia vehicles with a traditional "insert-and-turn" steel key ignition system. It includes payments for total loss of vehicles up to $6,125, damage to vehicle and personal property up to $3,375 and insurance-related expenses.

Other related expenses including car rental, taxi or other transportation costs not covered by insurance are also included by the settlement.

Owners can get reimbursed for towing costs and for stolen vehicles that suffered crashes or were never recovered, as well as payments for tickets or other penalties or fines incurred arising from a stolen vehicle.

Many major cities have sued the automakers over the thefts including St. Louis, Missouri, Cleveland, Ohio; San Diego, California; Milwaukee, Wisconsin; Columbus, Ohio; Baltimore and Seattle.
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Originally Posted by DaveGS4
They keep pushing the free giveaway "the Club" locks here local to me, but looks like a broader settlement

https://www.reuters.com/legal/hyunda...rs-2023-05-18/
It's a great article and I understand the vehicle mfgs do their best for theft deterrent but I don't understand why it's Hyundai's fault that people figured out hacky ways to defeat the immobilizer.

Where does the mfg's responsibility end and the consumer's responsibility begin?
Another words, if someone breaks into my computer, can I class action lawsuit the company who made the laptop? lol
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It's a great article and I understand the vehicle mfgs do their best for theft deterrent but I don't understand why it's Hyundai's fault that people figured out hacky ways to defeat the immobilizer.
The Hyundai's in the class action are defective.

"TikTok videos showing how to steal cars without push-button ignitions and immobilizing anti-theft devices has led to at least 14 reported crashes and eight fatalities in the United States, regulators said in February"
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Originally Posted by Margate330
It's a great article and I understand the vehicle mfgs do their best for theft deterrent but I don't understand why it's Hyundai's fault that people figured out hacky ways to defeat the immobilizer.

Where does the mfg's responsibility end and the consumer's responsibility begin?
Another words, if someone breaks into my computer, can I class action lawsuit the company who made the laptop? lol
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They didn't figure out how to defeat the immobilizer. Hyundai/Kia didn't install an immobilizer in some of the lower trim models.
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At least it was only 322 units for the Palisade.
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Originally Posted by sm1ke
At least it was only 322 units for the Palisade.
I can’t recall. But I think Hyundai and KIA recalls usually start small and the get bigger and bigger. That said, my brother has a Palisade and absolutely loves it
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