This was a quality defect, they CAN die from rust but it's exceptionally rare. My Jeep still has it's originals

 

I agree they are rare. Was just wondering
because there was once a recall on the front springs. Rusting prematurely

 

Broken coils via rust is not rare in this part of the world. Kentucky made Toyota's are very bad for this the steel is vastly inferior vs. Japan made.

 

Where are you located? I've never seen a coil fail other than on Hyundai/Kia

 

I had a coil spring snap on the back end of my US-built Ford Escort.

 

I've never seen a coil spring break in my 55 years of wrenching, but I've lived in California my entire life. The road departments across the country need to find a salt substitute for de-icing roadways!

On the other hand, I can't believe how many people are running around with break light issues, and I have noticed some brands have more issues than others, like GM and Hyundai/Kia. I think we see more of this now because of the lack of traffic cops. Some people won't address an issue until they have a ticket in hand and are facing fines.

Hyundai/Kia would help their bottom line if they started an internal campaign to address quality concerns. They are too focused on innovation, style and performance, which are all good things, but without quality, I'm not interested.

 

There are less-corrosive de-icers on the market, but they cost more, and many jurisdictions try and keep costs down.


Despite a bunch of negative hype in the press, their quality ratings, in general, are pretty good, both at J.D. Power and Consumer Reports.

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2023/02/13/Hyundai-Toyota-JD-Power-rankings-Kia/3221676300311/

https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-reliability-owner-satisfaction/how-asian-domestic-european-automakers-rank-for-car-reliability-a7067862655/

 

Location under my avatar. Broken coils are a thing here for sure the bottom area accumulates salt and rots. Rear subframes rot out as well and sometimes struts. I've even seen knuckles fail where it meets the strut. This is on Toyota's not German cars simply because 20+ year old German cars are rare.

 

Ive seen the subframe failures and some struts fail where the stamped metal meets the knuckle but I've yet to see a spring eat it.

20 year old German stuff is common, they do far better when old than Toyota since you can actually buy any part you want new without problems. It's just expensive unless you work on them yourself, but people still keep them alive if it's stuff like old flagships and the sporty cars.

Same deal with most brands, the cool stuff gets to stay alive because people care.

 

“The company tells the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration that “engine valve springs may break while driving due to fatigue cracking as a result of damage to the springs during manufacture by the supplier.” A broken valve spring can cause a loss of engine power and, “in rare cases, a hole in the engine block,” Kia says.

A hole in the engine block can lead to an engine fire, the report notes. Kia dealers will replace the engine sub-assembly to correct the problem.”

https://www.kbb.com/car-news/recall-...kia-telluride/

 

Has there been a recall on peeling/flaking paint on Optimas and Sorrentos? The last half dozen I've seen have sheets missing.

 

I wish I knew that paint's secret. I've known some people that I wish would flake off.

 

Sounds like a free engine to me.....time to drive it 20-40k more miles before going in for the free new one lol!

 

I am not sure. I just find and follow Hyundai, KIA and Genesis struggles with recalls and engine fires interesting.

 

Sounds like they didn't properly clean and prep the surface before painting.
I'm not a paint exert tho, just ideas.

Tasteless!
I like it. haha