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Old 05-05-21, 05:35 PM
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Do you actually go LOOK at new vehicles and/or test-drive them? I do.
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If you look at the Car And Driver list I posted the recalls go back to 2015 and at least one recall for the same problem every year from 2015 onwards. That's more than 12-18 months ago so it isn't something that's recent. It's shoddy Korean engineering plain and simple, all flash and no substance. So, enough with the excuses already.
So the simple answer is no, you don't.

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Originally Posted by mmarshall
So the simple answer is no, you don't.
Whether I test drive cars or not does not change the fact that the Hyundai parent company has had at least one recall for potential engine fire every year since 2015.

But carry on with your anecdotal stories, pumping your fist in the air, beating your chest and declaring Hyundai/Kia/Genesis can do no wrong.
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Originally Posted by F1Driver
But carry on with your anecdotal stories, pumping your fist in the air, beating your chest and declaring Hyundai/Kia/Genesis can do no wrong.
Excuse me, but I am an adult. I express opinions and facts, but do not indulge in childish rantings. Now, if you don't mind, let's get back to an objective discussion about Hyundais and Kias and any fire-related issues.

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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Excuse me, but I am an adult. I express opinions and facts, but do not indulge in childish rantings. Now, if you don't mind, let's get back to an objective discussion about Hyundais and Kias and any fire-related issues.
You at least admit to one thing correctly. That is you express opinions. Like I said, the evidence (e.g. consistent recalls for the same potential engine fire problem) does not support your anecdotal opinion (e.g. Hyundai/Kia/Genesis are a quality brand).
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Old 05-06-21, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by F1Driver
You at least admit to one thing correctly. That is you express opinions. Like I said, the evidence (e.g. consistent recalls for the same potential engine fire problem) does not support your anecdotal opinion (e.g. Hyundai/Kia/Genesis are a quality brand).
No. I admitted to BOTH correctly.....opinions and facts.

Evidence of engine fires is NOT necessarily related to poor quality. I've seen them happen on Toyotas.


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Old 05-06-21, 08:09 AM
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People don't generally associate quality with vehicles that start on fire.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
No. I admitted to BOTH correctly.....opinions and facts.

Evidence of engine fires is NOT necessarily related to poor quality. I've seen them happen on Toyotas.
I believe I'm not alone when I say this but quality vehicles do not normally catch fire. Especially, the same problem year after year after year.
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Old 05-06-21, 01:50 PM
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Every single car brand has had car fires, so can't use that as a reason. But when it's a higher quantity with one, that spells quality trouble.

So one year ago my dad got a notice about an engine fire recall for his 2013 Santa Fe. NOTHING has happened since, as far as a fix or taking it in. Then of course yesterday another engine fire recall surfaces for his model year. Just pathetically handled. As I have been saying for years, this company is not fully baked and not taking care of these recalls is downright criminal.


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Here is another recall. The same KIAs recalled a second time.

Kia recalls vehicles a 2nd time, owners should park outside
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How many times will it take for Kia to actually fix the problem?
This time dealers will install a new fuse, inspect the computers, and replace them if needed. Owners will get recall notification letters starting July 2.

Documents posted Tuesday by U.S. safety regulators say the new fuse has a lower amperage rating, mitigating the potential for fire.
Lower the current rating of the fuse? How is that a fix? So instead of a fire it blows the fuse then what? This is disgraceful.
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How many times will it take for Kia to actually fix the problem?
Lower the current rating of the fuse? How is that a fix? So instead of a fire it blows the fuse then what? This is disgraceful.
Kia (Hyundai) will not fix the problem as long as sheeples will continue to buy them in droves and praise them as the second coming of god.
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Calling out shoddy engineering is one thing.

calling out “shoddy Korean engineering” as has happened in this thread is xenophobic at best.





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Originally Posted by LeX2K
So instead of a fire it blows the fuse...
As in, this is exactly what a fuse is supposed to do? In the case of recall regarding "brake fluid leakage leading to fires," this seems like a logical fix to prevent fires. That said, brake fluid leakage is only one of the reasons these vehicles are self-immolating.

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...then what?
Then one replaces the fuse, and takes the vehicle to the dealer to determine why the fuse blew. If brake fluid is leaking, I imagine the dealer would fix the leak.

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This is disgraceful.
Not sure I understand why this is disgraceful. What do you suggest?
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Originally Posted by swajames
calling out “shoddy Korean engineering” as has happened in this thread is xenophobic at best.
"At best?" Perhaps "at worst," but, why be this negative or sensitive?

All manufacturers, of all products, in all countries, have successes and failures. Historically, Hyundai and Kia have had reliability issues, and while they are making strides in improving, they have a way to go to catch up with the more reliable brands. I'm not sure who used the label "shoddy," but it was likely a description based on the reliability and recall data. Perhaps "shoddy" was insensitive, but labeling it "xenophobic" seems over-the-top to me.
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SJWs and snowflakes are a touchy bunch.
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