Tokyo aiming to ban sales of new gas-fueled cars by 2030
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Tokyo aiming to ban sales of new gas-fueled cars by 2030
Writing is on the wall. ICE is on its twilight years and the movement is growing stronger across the globe on the ICE ban. 10 years is an incredibly short timeframe for cars...thats barely one 1.5 generations ahead. Crazy.
http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14003626
The timeline, announced Dec. 8 by Governor Yuriko Koike at a metropolitan assembly session, would put Tokyo about five years ahead of similar moves eyed by the central government.
Tokyo also intends to ban sales of new two-wheel gas-fueled vehicles by 2035.
The metropolitan government said it will start drafting specific measures to encourage residents to switch to more eco-friendly cars, such as electric and hybrid vehicles, by cooperating with automakers.
Tokyo’s Zero Emission Tokyo Strategy, released at the end of last year, envisages achieving the goal by 2050.
The metropolitan government has been subsidizing purchases of electric vehicles as well as plug-in hybrid and fuel cell models to spur the proportion of eco-friendly options among all new car sales in the capital to 50 percent by 2030. But it now has a more ambitious goal in mind.
“We are aiming to have cars with no or low exhaust emissions, including hybrid vehicles, account for all new car sales by 2030,” a metropolitan government official said.
The central government is working on its own plan to ban sales of gasoline-powered cars by the mid-2030s to steer the market toward electric and hybrid cars. Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga recently pledged that Japan intended to reach net zero carbon emissions by 2050.
Britain and China are among countries that have pledged similar timelines for when they switch over completely to eco-friendly cars. Transportation-related carbon dioxide emissions account for a significant proportion of overall emissions.
http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14003626
Tokyo aiming to ban sales of new gas-fueled cars by 2030
Tokyo plans to get one step ahead of the central government by banning sales of new cars powered only by gasoline by 2030 to achieve net zero greenhouse gas emissions.The timeline, announced Dec. 8 by Governor Yuriko Koike at a metropolitan assembly session, would put Tokyo about five years ahead of similar moves eyed by the central government.
Tokyo also intends to ban sales of new two-wheel gas-fueled vehicles by 2035.
The metropolitan government said it will start drafting specific measures to encourage residents to switch to more eco-friendly cars, such as electric and hybrid vehicles, by cooperating with automakers.
Tokyo’s Zero Emission Tokyo Strategy, released at the end of last year, envisages achieving the goal by 2050.
The metropolitan government has been subsidizing purchases of electric vehicles as well as plug-in hybrid and fuel cell models to spur the proportion of eco-friendly options among all new car sales in the capital to 50 percent by 2030. But it now has a more ambitious goal in mind.
“We are aiming to have cars with no or low exhaust emissions, including hybrid vehicles, account for all new car sales by 2030,” a metropolitan government official said.
The central government is working on its own plan to ban sales of gasoline-powered cars by the mid-2030s to steer the market toward electric and hybrid cars. Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga recently pledged that Japan intended to reach net zero carbon emissions by 2050.
Britain and China are among countries that have pledged similar timelines for when they switch over completely to eco-friendly cars. Transportation-related carbon dioxide emissions account for a significant proportion of overall emissions.
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The problem is that the bozos making decisions like this have not really shown that ICE vehicles are destroying the planet. It is mostly just PC hype.
Again, alleged but not proven. And what about the added pollution that generating more electricity for all those new EVs-recharging is likely to produce?
Transportation-related carbon dioxide emissions account for a significant proportion of overall emissions.
Last edited by mmarshall; 12-14-20 at 09:32 PM.
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SMDH. I understand the need and desire to improve air quality globally, but some of this BS is just overkill. I am very centrist politically and lean left on many things as an automotive engineer & businessman, but this is just one of those things I am very conservative on.
It's why I've hated Tesla (still cool though), not because they were bad cars, but that their being "trendy", would not simply add to the automotive segment, but cull the existence of ICE in many countries. Plus, quality problems and the cult they attract (excludes level-headed owners).
It's why I've hated Tesla (still cool though), not because they were bad cars, but that their being "trendy", would not simply add to the automotive segment, but cull the existence of ICE in many countries. Plus, quality problems and the cult they attract (excludes level-headed owners).
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The Chinese and Korean companies are placing more emphasis on BEVs with hydrogen as a side project. It's pretty telling when Hyundai/Kia and BYD Auto are currently among the top 5 EV manufacturers in the world by volume, whereas the only Japanese company on the list is Renault-Nissan- and it's only half Japanese.
The Japanese government has bet on hydrogen for over a decade now, and they are too stubborn to let it go.
The Japanese government has bet on hydrogen for over a decade now, and they are too stubborn to let it go.
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The Chinese and Korean companies are placing more emphasis on BEVs with hydrogen as a side project. It's pretty telling when Hyundai/Kia and BYD Auto are currently among the top 5 EV manufacturers in the world by volume, whereas the only Japanese company on the list is Renault-Nissan- and it's only half Japanese.
The Japanese government has bet on hydrogen for over a decade now, and they are too stubborn to let it go.
The Japanese government has bet on hydrogen for over a decade now, and they are too stubborn to let it go.
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I agree with this. Long haul may be Fuel Cell while passenger cars will be BEV for efficiency and cost reasons.
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Not sure if everything in this article is accurate, but it does show the huge investment being made on solid state batteries. Interesting.
Imagine an electric car battery that provides more than 300 miles of range, charges in approximately ten minutes, requires no bulky heating and cooling systems, maintains 80 percent of its charge capacity for 800 cycles (about 240,000 miles), and isn't prone to spontaneous combustion. Such is the promise of the solid-state car battery, a holy grail that automakers and manufacturers are racing to find. Now, Toyota announced it'll have a running prototype with a solid-state battery ready by next year.
Before you yawn and click the back button on your browser, consider the implications of this technology. Range and charge times are the biggest barriers to EV adoption, and while a ten-minute charge is still quite a bit longer than it takes to fill a gas tank with liquid fuel, it's a lot better than having to make lunch plans while your car recharges. A compact fast-charging battery could be the EV equivalent of the electric starter, as it would allow battery-powered electric cars to conquer internal-combustion power once and for all.
Toyota is far from the sole entrant in this race, nor is it the only company making headlines. Last week, a California company called QuantumScape, which has a strategic partnership with Volkswagen, announced promising test results for its own solid-state cell. Toyota's announcement of its upcoming Euro-market electric SUV included the note that the company plans to have solid-state battery technology in its production vehicles by 2025.
Toyota, in partnership with Panasonic, currently has more than a thousand patents covering solid-state batteries, and Nissan is working on its own solid-state battery, which it claims will appear in a "non-simulation" vehicle by 2028. Toyota does not currently offer a battery-powered vehicle in the United States and hasn't offered one since the 2012-2014 RAV4 EV, but it is about to launch an update of the hydrogen fuel cell powered Mirai. Nissan, meanwhile, offers the Leaf. The brand is also preparing to launch its first electric SUV: the Ariya.
Both Toyota and Nissan have the might of the Japanese government behind them. Japan is assembling a ¥2 trillion fund (around $19 billion) to support decarbonization technology, a significant part of which will be used to support the development of solid-state batteries (particularly the procurement of lithium, of which global reserves are finite). At least two major Japanese mining and oil companies, Mitsui Kinzoku and Idemitsu Kosan, are building infrastructure to produce solid electrolyte.
Japan is hoping early advances in solid-state technology will give it the lead in battery production over China and South Korea. The global market for next-generation batteries (those that perform better than existing lithium-ion batteries) is expected to grow from $39 million this year to $413 million in 2025, $3.1 billion in 2030, and $25.2 billion in 2035.
Needless to say, other companies are well into the race. Samsung has developed a solid-state battery using silver-carbon instead of lithium. This prototype battery has the potential for 500 miles of range in a pack half the size of a modern lithium-ion battery. Additionally, Colorado-based Solid Power is partnering with Ford and BMW to develop battery tech, while Mercedes is working with Hydro-Québec in Canada.
The race to develop a solid-state battery for electric vehicles is on, and if Toyota's plans to produce a running prototype in 2021 come to fruition, then we could very well be looking at the dominant automotive technology of the future within the next year.
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Toyota's Solid-State Battery Prototype Could Be an EV Game Changer
Toyota's Solid-State Battery Prototype Could Be an EV Game Changer
New technology brings electric cars closer to the convenience of their gas-powered counterparts.
Imagine an electric car battery that provides more than 300 miles of range, charges in approximately ten minutes, requires no bulky heating and cooling systems, maintains 80 percent of its charge capacity for 800 cycles (about 240,000 miles), and isn't prone to spontaneous combustion. Such is the promise of the solid-state car battery, a holy grail that automakers and manufacturers are racing to find. Now, Toyota announced it'll have a running prototype with a solid-state battery ready by next year.
Before you yawn and click the back button on your browser, consider the implications of this technology. Range and charge times are the biggest barriers to EV adoption, and while a ten-minute charge is still quite a bit longer than it takes to fill a gas tank with liquid fuel, it's a lot better than having to make lunch plans while your car recharges. A compact fast-charging battery could be the EV equivalent of the electric starter, as it would allow battery-powered electric cars to conquer internal-combustion power once and for all.
Toyota is far from the sole entrant in this race, nor is it the only company making headlines. Last week, a California company called QuantumScape, which has a strategic partnership with Volkswagen, announced promising test results for its own solid-state cell. Toyota's announcement of its upcoming Euro-market electric SUV included the note that the company plans to have solid-state battery technology in its production vehicles by 2025.
Toyota, in partnership with Panasonic, currently has more than a thousand patents covering solid-state batteries, and Nissan is working on its own solid-state battery, which it claims will appear in a "non-simulation" vehicle by 2028. Toyota does not currently offer a battery-powered vehicle in the United States and hasn't offered one since the 2012-2014 RAV4 EV, but it is about to launch an update of the hydrogen fuel cell powered Mirai. Nissan, meanwhile, offers the Leaf. The brand is also preparing to launch its first electric SUV: the Ariya.
Both Toyota and Nissan have the might of the Japanese government behind them. Japan is assembling a ¥2 trillion fund (around $19 billion) to support decarbonization technology, a significant part of which will be used to support the development of solid-state batteries (particularly the procurement of lithium, of which global reserves are finite). At least two major Japanese mining and oil companies, Mitsui Kinzoku and Idemitsu Kosan, are building infrastructure to produce solid electrolyte.
Japan is hoping early advances in solid-state technology will give it the lead in battery production over China and South Korea. The global market for next-generation batteries (those that perform better than existing lithium-ion batteries) is expected to grow from $39 million this year to $413 million in 2025, $3.1 billion in 2030, and $25.2 billion in 2035.
Needless to say, other companies are well into the race. Samsung has developed a solid-state battery using silver-carbon instead of lithium. This prototype battery has the potential for 500 miles of range in a pack half the size of a modern lithium-ion battery. Additionally, Colorado-based Solid Power is partnering with Ford and BMW to develop battery tech, while Mercedes is working with Hydro-Québec in Canada.
The race to develop a solid-state battery for electric vehicles is on, and if Toyota's plans to produce a running prototype in 2021 come to fruition, then we could very well be looking at the dominant automotive technology of the future within the next year.
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#14
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The few places that won't be battery will be hybrids. Hydrogen has no future in developed countries and nobody is going to waste the time and money to build a whole new fueling infrastructure comparable to gasoline or BEV charging for it. Except Japan.
The Mirai will not sell. It's a vanity project fueled by the same "Japan First" stubbornness as Cool Japan.
The Mirai will not sell. It's a vanity project fueled by the same "Japan First" stubbornness as Cool Japan.
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The Japan Olympics were supposed to be a showcase of hybrid, battery and fuel cell by Toyota. . Buses and athletes village along with the flame were supposed to be hydrogen powered. There were supposed to be a ton of battery smaller cars 2-1 over fuel cell. And there were supposed to be some hybrids as well. Coronavirus messed it all up.