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Old 01-26-21, 02:53 PM
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Kia doesn't have the badge, however IMO, if the K900/Cadenza exterior styling was used in the G90, the G90 would sell like hot cakes relative to its peers, rather than the G90 underselling an already poor selling 5LS.
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Old 01-26-21, 03:11 PM
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IMO the G90 is way better looking than the K900
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Old 01-26-21, 03:15 PM
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The Kia K9 was a very special car when it carried the V8 option. The V6 is just meh as lots of upmarket non luxury cars have a 6. The K900 should have kept the V8. But a V8 in a KIA is rare, exclusive and is a bit a sleeper. As for styling, neither the Kia K900 or the G90 look spectacular...
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Old 01-26-21, 03:18 PM
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V8 wouldnt have made any difference in K900 sales.
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Old 01-26-21, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
V8 wouldnt have made any difference in K900 sales.
I agree. Even if sales doubled or tripled with a V8 they'd still have been miniscule.
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Old 01-26-21, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by LexBob2
I agree. Even if sales doubled or tripled with a V8 they'd still have been miniscule.
Originally Posted by SW17LS
V8 wouldnt have made any difference in K900 sales.
Its not really about sales. That type of car is ultra exclusive and a V8 makes it even more. Sort of like Land Crusier.
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Didn't work for the VW Phaeton. Wasn't going to work for Kia.
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Old 01-26-21, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Didn't work for the VW Phaeton. Wasn't going to work for Kia.
KIA made it work for a long time with the K9 then the 2nd gen 900
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
KIA made it work for a long time with the K9 then the 2nd gen 900
Doesn't look very successful (K900 sales). As it stands the K900 is being discontinued in the US, other markets it will live on


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The K900 would have done decently if it was badged into what it actually is: a SWB G90. Of course, sales are a moot point when it wasn't even brought into the U.S. in large numbers to begin with, especially from the 2nd gen onward.

Now that the Cadenza and K900 are finished, I'm curious to see what happens to the Stinger. Unlike the K900, it's not as in-demand in the Korean market, which is why there were rumors of its cancellation. I wouldn't be surprised if it gets absorbed and rebadged from the next gen onward as a Genesis, since it's already based on the G70. A G70 Gran Coupe, if you will. Kia's push to move upmarket will be done through their SUV's that don't share parts with Genesis.
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Old 01-26-21, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Doesn't look very successful (K900 sales). As it stands the K900 is being discontinued in the US, other markets it will live on

Did you expect 20,000 per year?



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The K900 would have done decently if it was badged into what it actually is: a SWB G90. Of course, sales are a moot point when it wasn't even brought into the U.S. in large numbers to begin with, especially from the 2nd gen onward.
Nobody should expect the K900 to be big seller. It’s a fun vehicle for those who want something really nice..without a luxo badge.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Did you expect 20,000 per year?
Not at all. Subtract a 0 from that number. Kia has cited the market transition from large cars to crossovers and SUVs which is no surprise. Now, bring us the Kia Mohave (ala Kia Borrego) which would be a solid flagship replacement for the K900 here in the States. I guarantee it would sell better than the K900 ever did. This vehicle is BOF btw


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The bottom line is it just doesnt sell enough here to make it worthwhile for them to sell it. Keeping the V8 wouldnt have changed that.
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Old 01-26-21, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Now, bring us the Kia Mohave (ala Kia Borrego)

The Boreggo (horrific name) was cool....extra special with the V8 option at the time. That is an exclusive vehicle.

That is a nice interior

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Old 01-26-21, 05:29 PM
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People who buy Kias don't care about exclusive.
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