According to Jalopnick, Lexus going full electric.
02-02-21, 08:43 AM
#46
EV ftw!!!
I bet its mostly hybrid. It seems Toyota thinks BEV isn't the future as the CEO seems against it. I bet the entire lineup is hybrid and will only have 1 BEV as an experiment. I hope they develop a more performance hybrid in their sport offerings. The current hybrids are dreadfully slow.
02-02-21, 08:44 AM
#47
Lexus Fanatic
02-02-21, 08:46 AM
#48
Lexus Test Driver
I have been to NYC many times. How do you fuel your cars now? You will be able to charge your EV in the same manner and just as quickly. Nobody is saying that EV chargers are going to be free to use, they will be built by people who want to make money off of them.
The market will drive ingenuity here.
The market will drive ingenuity here.
There is literally no room. It would be a HUGE investment that would take decades to make a decent ROI unless you charge crazy prices for charging which would prohibit ppl from buying EVs in the first place.
02-02-21, 08:49 AM
#49
Lexus Test Driver
I actually don’t believe this. There are 23,000 man hours of labour in a barre of oil. Nuclear is the o lay energy with more stored power. Battery technology will have to be revolutionized dramatically to make this happen. It’s like MPG. In The 70’s states hey hit the pinnacle of fuel efficiencies now they lighten the blinker switch to try and eek out more mileage as they have maximized the efficiency of engines. Battery technology will be the same. It at some point will be impossible to store more energy in a battery or get more power out of an electric motor and with all the brain power currently working on it we may be there now or very very close.
range anxiety won’t be resolved. Energy has its limits
range anxiety won’t be resolved. Energy has its limits
02-02-21, 08:53 AM
#50
Lexus Fanatic
Range anxiety will be resolved wen you can charge the car in 10 minutes and there are plenty of places to charge them.
02-02-21, 08:54 AM
#51
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
Where I lived in Los Angeles it would be extremely extremely difficult and expensive to add chargers. The landlords wouldn’t pay for them I can tell you that for sure. Thousands more apartment buildings just like it.
Not everyone has a garage with wall outlet.
California can’t even keep their own power on re: recent brownouts. Adding all this to the grid’s load would be a disaster.
Not everyone has a garage with wall outlet.
California can’t even keep their own power on re: recent brownouts. Adding all this to the grid’s load would be a disaster.
02-02-21, 08:55 AM
#52
Lexus Fanatic
Where are they getting the land to build these charging stations?
There is literally no room. It would be a HUGE investment that would take decades to make a decent ROI unless you charge crazy prices for charging which would prohibit ppl from buying EVs in the first place.
There is literally no room. It would be a HUGE investment that would take decades to make a decent ROI unless you charge crazy prices for charging which would prohibit ppl from buying EVs in the first place.
02-02-21, 08:57 AM
#53
Lexus Fanatic
The landlords wouldn’t pay for them I can tell you that for sure.
02-02-21, 08:59 AM
#54
EV ftw!!!
Once you own a Tesla, range anxiety is a thing of the past. I will be the first to agree that charging times on a trip are not always convenient, but you learn to work around it - it's perfectly fine - timed with washroom/eating breaks.
02-02-21, 09:04 AM
#55
Lexus Test Driver
Most of these are privately owned. I know a family company that own 20 gas stations in NYC area. They would be out of their mind to start changing unless the government provides the $$$.
02-02-21, 09:06 AM
#56
Lexus Fanatic
I felt exactly the same way - before I got an EV (not just any EV, but a Tesla - and it's perfectly normal for anyone who has not had an EV) - range anxiety. I'm willing to bet you have not owned an EV yet and you're speaking generally for the majority of the car buying public.
Once you own a Tesla, range anxiety is a thing of the past. I will be the first to agree that charging times on a trip are not always convenient, but you learn to work around it - it's perfectly fine - timed with washroom/eating breaks.
Once you own a Tesla, range anxiety is a thing of the past. I will be the first to agree that charging times on a trip are not always convenient, but you learn to work around it - it's perfectly fine - timed with washroom/eating breaks.
02-02-21, 09:09 AM
#57
Lexus Fanatic
Can you imagine the cost and Environmental clearance to convert a gas station to EV charging station. While this conversion takes place - how are they going to account for the lost revenue?
Most of these are privately owned. I know a family company that own 20 gas stations in NYC area. They would be out of their mind to start changing unless the government provides the $$$.
Most of these are privately owned. I know a family company that own 20 gas stations in NYC area. They would be out of their mind to start changing unless the government provides the $$$.
Gas stations won't convert 100% all at once, They will replace some pumps with chargers over time. EV chargers are cheap, certainly far far cheaper than gas pumps and tanks etc.
When demand increases, they won't at all be out of their minds to convert to also provide EV charging. Its another revenue stream. The free market will work here.
02-02-21, 09:12 AM
#58
Lexus Fanatic
And we DO largely have self driving cars today, its just not cleared for road use yet. The technology exists. My Mercedes, which is not all that sophisticated in that department compared to newer models, can drive me on the highway for 100 miles without me ever touching the steering wheel if it werent for regulation.
02-02-21, 09:19 AM
#59
Lexus Test Driver
How many pictures can you find of cars driven by people that have had an accident?
And we DO largely have self driving cars today, its just not cleared for road use yet. The technology exists. My Mercedes, which is not all that sophisticated in that department compared to newer models, can drive me on the highway for 100 miles without me ever touching the steering wheel if it werent for regulation.
And we DO largely have self driving cars today, its just not cleared for road use yet. The technology exists. My Mercedes, which is not all that sophisticated in that department compared to newer models, can drive me on the highway for 100 miles without me ever touching the steering wheel if it werent for regulation.
02-02-21, 09:28 AM
#60
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