According to Jalopnick, Lexus going full electric.
02-03-21, 12:43 PM
#121
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
Not if parked in a garage in an apartment complex. Which hundreds and hundreds of thousands of cars are out there, if not more out there in SoCal. Cars had to park in tandem where we were. I can’t possibly imagine adding chargers and it working where we lived, but whatever I guess.
02-03-21, 01:00 PM
#122
Lexus Fanatic
Not if parked in a garage in an apartment complex. Which hundreds and hundreds of thousands of cars are out there, if not more out there in SoCal. Cars had to park in tandem where we were. I can’t possibly imagine adding chargers and it working where we lived, but whatever I guess.
02-03-21, 04:48 PM
#123
Lexus Test Driver
The gas company can't stop the gas station from providing charging stations on the same premises. The gas contract is only for the supply of the fuel and the branding. You seem to think Shell controls the station, they don't. Gas stations can and do change fuel brands all the time.
And gas companies are going to get in on this too as soon as there is money to be made.
And gas companies are going to get in on this too as soon as there is money to be made.
Well if that is the case - why don’t we see a damn Tesla charger at each and every gas station? I’m pretty sure they explored doing that and were told to take a hike.
02-03-21, 04:50 PM
#124
Lexus Test Driver
Who is paying for this at your office building - please take a pic as I have never seen this.
02-03-21, 04:53 PM
#125
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
New buildings, sure, and that’s good. But older places the logistics would be a nightmare. It would cost an absolute fortune if possible, which I doubt. I always check reviews of our old apartments etc. so if I see them ever offering charge ports for tenants I’ll let everyone here on the battery bandwagon know.
02-03-21, 05:54 PM
#126
Driver School Candidate
I see a lot of people here saying why some the electric or other alternate push won't happen any time soon, but the way I see it, it more a demand / supply thing. If the car companies & governments want to push electric or other then it will happen and will happen tremendously fast. This is esp true when it becomes an election issue. In UK and most European countries this is now an election issue so I can see a massive electric uptake. Here is Australia, we seem to follow the US so its a slow but it will be an election issue soon, then all bets are off. Combine power hungry politicians, profit hungry car companies and eco minded generation and its a perfect storm.
02-03-21, 06:25 PM
#127
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
I see a lot of people here saying why some the electric or other alternate push won't happen any time soon, but the way I see it, it more a demand / supply thing. If the car companies & governments want to push electric or other then it will happen and will happen tremendously fast. This is esp true when it becomes an election issue. In UK and most European countries this is now an election issue so I can see a massive electric uptake. Here is Australia, we seem to follow the US so its a slow but it will be an election issue soon, then all bets are off. Combine power hungry politicians, profit hungry car companies and eco minded generation and its a perfect storm.
It will be decades before we have mostly EV cars in my opinion. Half of us will fight it as hard as we can. Can’t get into it any more on here. I plan on being an old man before I’m not allowed to drive an ICE, and I hope that day never happens honestly. Cars are so damn clean today and they will just get cleaner.
These goalposts can and will move.
02-03-21, 07:03 PM
#128
Lexus Fanatic
LOL - i love how confident you are in such intricate aspects of contracts having never reviewed one previously.
Well if that is the case - why don’t we see a damn Tesla charger at each and every gas station? I’m pretty sure they explored doing that and were told to take a hike.
Well if that is the case - why don’t we see a damn Tesla charger at each and every gas station? I’m pretty sure they explored doing that and were told to take a hike.
You DO see electric charging stations at gas stations, as I and other members have told you in this thread. Why don't all of them have them? Because there's currently not enough money to be made there to make it worth the ground space. That will change as more BEVs are on the roads and charging speeds shorten so they can be turned over faster and you will see this happening more and more.
I realize you don't want this to happen, but its happening whether you like it or not lol.
Most of the parking garages around here have some availability of electric charging spaces.
New buildings, sure, and that’s good. But older places the logistics would be a nightmare. It would cost an absolute fortune if possible, which I doubt. I always check reviews of our old apartments etc. so if I see them ever offering charge ports for tenants I’ll let everyone here on the battery bandwagon know.
Where would we ever find room for this?!
You're grasping at straws here. You can fit a charger anywhere you can park a car.
Last edited by SW17LS; 02-03-21 at 07:07 PM.
02-03-21, 07:16 PM
#129
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
My guess is those are hardwired into the ground.
Impossible to do that on every floor but the basement where our cars were, and even then, they’d be digging into the foundation or ground to try to do it.. Can’t really picture that either especially with cars parked in tandem but I suppose it’s possible.
It’s hard to explain but the slabs most of the cars parked on on higher levels were on only about 6 inches of concrete.
Impossible to do that on every floor but the basement where our cars were, and even then, they’d be digging into the foundation or ground to try to do it.. Can’t really picture that either especially with cars parked in tandem but I suppose it’s possible.
It’s hard to explain but the slabs most of the cars parked on on higher levels were on only about 6 inches of concrete.
02-03-21, 07:19 PM
#130
Lexus Fanatic
My guess is those are hardwired into the ground.
Impossible to do that on every floor but the basement where our cars were, and even then, they’d be digging into the foundation to try to do it..
It’s hard to explain but the slabs most of the cars parked on on higher levels were on only about 6 inches of concrete.
Impossible to do that on every floor but the basement where our cars were, and even then, they’d be digging into the foundation to try to do it..
It’s hard to explain but the slabs most of the cars parked on on higher levels were on only about 6 inches of concrete.
02-03-21, 07:22 PM
#131
Lexus Fanatic
And in terms of adding a charhing station to your condo or apartment assigned parking spot, this is the company my clients' that have done so have used, they specialize in this:
https://www.chargepoint.com/drivers/...ts-and-condos/
For the most part property managers are very receptive to this.
https://www.chargepoint.com/drivers/...ts-and-condos/
For the most part property managers are very receptive to this.
02-03-21, 08:07 PM
#132
Lexus Fanatic
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i see no insurmountable obstacles to widespread adoption of electric vehicles in the next few years. will some areas adopt faster than others? sure. but it's going to happen.
02-03-21, 08:17 PM
#133
Yes, I agree bit.
It's just like digital cameras; there's always the sceptics.
It's just like digital cameras; there's always the sceptics.
02-03-21, 08:30 PM
#134
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
I agree it is inevitable. But it will be a long time before we are all in EVs and have ubiquitous chargers everywhere. That the grid can’t handle it is a whole other can of worms. California can’t even keep its lights on.
I seriously will be checking my old apartments over the next few years and beyond for chargers. They were nice, not super high end, but nice.
Hoping for good health and longevity for all of us and we’ll see who got it right eventually about all this.
I seriously will be checking my old apartments over the next few years and beyond for chargers. They were nice, not super high end, but nice.
Hoping for good health and longevity for all of us and we’ll see who got it right eventually about all this.
02-03-21, 08:42 PM
#135
Consumers won't suddenly purchase a tsunami of EV's.
It is a progressive purchase, and those purchases will be matched with growth of renewable power stations & chargers.
Let's say a tsunami of purchases did occur.
Then the inadequate supply of renewable energy & chargers would put the brakes on EV sales.
Then once the supply of renewable energy & chargers is renewed, then sales of BEV's will resume growth.
It is a progressive purchase, and those purchases will be matched with growth of renewable power stations & chargers.
Let's say a tsunami of purchases did occur.
Then the inadequate supply of renewable energy & chargers would put the brakes on EV sales.
Then once the supply of renewable energy & chargers is renewed, then sales of BEV's will resume growth.