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Old 02-22-21, 08:47 AM
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Default IS 500 F Performance

So its official the beautiful naturally aspirated V8 is going in the IS. What do all you naysayers have to say now?
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So its official the beautiful naturally aspirated V8 is going in the IS. What do all you naysayers have to say now?
Um, this is worse than the IS F not coming out.
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Still waiting on an RX F and NX F...
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Originally Posted by BJM2014
So its official the beautiful naturally aspirated V8 is going in the IS. What do all you naysayers have to say now?
Im surprised they have even done this, but still....same old V8, same power...its better than nothing but its not going to move the needle
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When attending the Lexus Performance Drivers School event in August ‘19, a question about an LC F in the future was side stepped as to date but a model with a TTV8 was almost confirmed.

The lackluster sales for LCs certainly slowed the enthusiasm but if the engine is ready, an LCF with a 2022 MY offered late 2021 or early 2022 seems likely.

Of course, the price tag will be astronomical and drive buyers to other manufacturers..... And, they will be more rare than LCs are today out in the wild but exclusivity seems to be a draw.

We will see later in the year how that plays out.

As for whatever is in store for the LS platform, ​​​the 500 is a total loser and not sure it can be saved. Will stick with my 430 and 460 as long as I can keep them going.....
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The fact that the IS500 is exclusively for the North American market spells everything we need to know about how Lexus is moving away from V8's. This is nothing more than a bone thrown to enthusiasts using old tech as they ramp up their global plans for the brand new electric and hybrid vehicles with Direct-4.
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Motorola, stop being repetitive.
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Motorola, stop being repetitive.
What did I say that was repetitive? This is a different thread.
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Originally Posted by Motorola
What did I say that was repetitive? This is a different thread.
Search your posts today and PM me if you can't figure it out.
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Originally Posted by Motorola
The fact that the IS500 is exclusively for the North American market spells everything we need to know about how Lexus is moving away from V8's. This is nothing more than a bone thrown to enthusiasts using old tech as they ramp up their global plans for the brand new electric and hybrid vehicles with Direct-4.
be glad NA isnt as whacky as euro so we can have things like hellcat engines in everything and IS500. They can go have fun with their boring 4 cylinder hybrids which is going to be in the next 63 AMG.
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Originally Posted by 4TehNguyen
be glad NA isnt as whacky as euro so we can have things like hellcat engines in everything and IS500. They can go have fun with their boring 4 cylinder hybrids which is going to be in the next 63 AMG.
With the new administration and the rejoining of the Paris Climate Agreement, those days are numbered and soon we'll be following the footsteps of the Europeans and Chinese in outlawing all new ICE vehicles by 2030.

I'm glad Lexus gives us one final hurrah with this car, but it's the last of its kind.
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Originally Posted by Motorola
With the new administration and the rejoining of the Paris Climate Agreement, those days are numbered and soon we'll be following the footsteps of the Europeans and Chinese in outlawing all new ICE vehicles by 2030.

I'm glad Lexus gives us one final hurrah with this car, but it's the last of its kind.
Porsche is investing heavily in synthetic fuel which would allow them to build and sell ICE cars for years to come. This is coming from head of their Motorsport division and AP who heads their GT cars.

New Mustang will have a V8.
New Raptor is getting an all new V8.
Corvette Z06 will have all new V8.

Best of all it seems the Lexus V8 TT may see the light of day also!

Its not all doom and gloom.

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Originally Posted by Motorola
With the new administration and the rejoining of the Paris Climate Agreement, those days are numbered and soon we'll be following the footsteps of the Europeans and Chinese in outlawing all new ICE vehicles by 2030.

I'm glad Lexus gives us one final hurrah with this car, but it's the last of its kind.
It is basically impossible to outlaw ICE cars by 2030, none of these countries have the grid that can come close to so many EV's charging at once, the infrastructure to charge them, etc. It would be really stupid for the US to try to attempt that nonsense with bans on ICE cars and I just don't see it happening no matter what a bunch of dumb politicians say and promise, they don't know anything about cars or electric grids and have basically been told it is impossible and will bankrupt the auto industry for nothing.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Im surprised they have even done this, but still....same old V8, same power...its better than nothing but its not going to move the needle
It will move the needle is they price it right and don't tack on a big premium.
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Originally Posted by UDel
It is basically impossible to outlaw ICE cars by 2030, none of these countries have the grid that can come close to so many EV's charging at once, the infrastructure to charge them, etc. It would be really stupid for the US to try to attempt that nonsense with bans on ICE cars and I just don't see it happening no matter what a bunch of dumb politicians say and promise, they don't know anything about cars or electric grids and have basically been told it is impossible and will bankrupt the auto industry for nothing.
New ICE cars? It would absolutely be possible to outlaw them by 2030, you can already see the effects on even current vehicles like Volvo's entire 4-cylinder hybrid electric lineup and the upcoming C-Class being purely 4-cylinder hybrids. Even if they don't all become pure EV's. the future of ICE will be low-displacement hybrids and PHEV's. The only way any V8 has a chance of survival is by becoming a hybrid.
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