Future Tundra
06-20-21, 06:37 PM
#152
Woof, Tacoma and 4Runner had a crazy night and the COVID baby is this Tundra. I can see how it kind of makes sense since the Taco is definitely the image leader of the two truck lines, opposite of all other brands with a Big and Medium sized truck.
I wish they had kept the TRD PRO stamping on the bedside rather than the tailgate, keep the tailgate clean.
Also find the marker lamps a bit poseur-ish, as I don't think the Tundra, even in TRD Pro form, is going to be wide enough to warrant them a la Raptor and TRX.
I wish they had kept the TRD PRO stamping on the bedside rather than the tailgate, keep the tailgate clean.
Also find the marker lamps a bit poseur-ish, as I don't think the Tundra, even in TRD Pro form, is going to be wide enough to warrant them a la Raptor and TRX.
06-20-21, 06:39 PM
#153
Should be noted that this is an early photoshop and not the actual new Tundra.
06-21-21, 09:37 AM
#157
A Ridgeline is not a truck lol.
I may have missed it but they're saying 3mpg gain on new Tundra? That's pretty good. But will it pan out towing, heavy into the gas, etc. is the question.
I don't like these downsized engines but if it's all we can get anymore I'm trying to get in the spirit. 490lb/ft of torque is quite healthy.
I have noticed for better or for worse it is getting a LOT of attention. People like their Tundras just like other guys like their F-150s.
I may have missed it but they're saying 3mpg gain on new Tundra? That's pretty good. But will it pan out towing, heavy into the gas, etc. is the question.
I don't like these downsized engines but if it's all we can get anymore I'm trying to get in the spirit. 490lb/ft of torque is quite healthy.
I have noticed for better or for worse it is getting a LOT of attention. People like their Tundras just like other guys like their F-150s.
A 12% gain is nothing to sneeze at. I wonder how much better your Ram mileage would be with a lower hood and smaller grill.
When Toyota was re-designing the Tundra five years ago, they touted how fuel efficient it would be to compete with the F150. Maybe they lost their way, or maybe they think they can get by with a V6, as long as it looks tough. I'm OK with a V6 if it is equivalent in HP/Torque to the V8, to get better fuel economy, but I'm not sure I can live with the front facade. If not, I'll consider the Ridgeline.
When Toyota was re-designing the Tundra five years ago, they touted how fuel efficient it would be to compete with the F150. Maybe they lost their way, or maybe they think they can get by with a V6, as long as it looks tough. I'm OK with a V6 if it is equivalent in HP/Torque to the V8, to get better fuel economy, but I'm not sure I can live with the front facade. If not, I'll consider the Ridgeline.
they get "better" mpg ratings because turbos juice the govt testing when they run off boost. However in the real world, get on boost or start towing and the V6 turbos tank in mileage unless driven perfectly. Ecoboost towing makes worse mileage than competitors V8s. TFL Truck did a towing mpg test and the ecoboost hybrid made 6.5 mpg on their tow test, the Hemi V8 Ram made 8.5mpg on the same test. There is a reason why people call Ecoboost "Eco or Boost" you dont get both. New Tundra engine wont be any different.
Last edited by 4TehNguyen; 06-21-21 at 10:06 AM.
06-21-21, 10:02 AM
#158
Lexus Champion
they get better mpg ratings because turbos juice the govt testing when they run off boost. However in the real world, get on boost or start towing and the V6 turbos tank in mileage unless driven perfectly. Ecoboost towing makes worse mileage than competitors V8s. TFL Truck did a towing mpg test and the ecoboost hybrid made 6.5 mpg on their tow test, the Hemi V8 Ram made 8.5mpg on the same test. There is a reason why people call Ecoboost "Eco or Boost" you dont get both. New Tundra engine wont be any different.
There is no replacement for displacement, I will argue that until I'm blue in the face or dead.
06-22-21, 07:44 AM
#160
Lexus Champion
Should have a nice big screen. I also notice that they put the grab handle back on the driver's side A-pillar, something that is missing on the current Tundra (and Tacoma).
06-22-21, 08:04 AM
#161
Yes noticed that (grab handle) as well! Must have shored up the structure to allow for it to return.
06-22-21, 08:08 AM
#162
Lexus Fanatic
It looks like the dropping of the I-Force 5.7 V8 on the 2022 Tundra is a significant incentive for buyers to scoop up the remaining 2021 models. I suspect that JDR76 and gadgetman are far from alone in their views (or interest), both on the forum and in the general public at large.
06-22-21, 08:27 AM
#163
Racer
Thread Starter
+3mpg basically brings it up to what the other big truck makers have, the ram is 15/21, outgoing tundra is 13/18. Stay off the turbo boost though because mileage is going to tank like it does on the ecoboost. That is the major issue with turbo engines.
trucks would look like total garbage if you made them with a lower hood relative to the bed height. The hoods line tend to match up with the bed height. Try to draw a picture and youll see it.
they get "better" mpg ratings because turbos juice the govt testing when they run off boost. However in the real world, get on boost or start towing and the V6 turbos tank in mileage unless driven perfectly. Ecoboost towing makes worse mileage than competitors V8s. TFL Truck did a towing mpg test and the ecoboost hybrid made 6.5 mpg on their tow test, the Hemi V8 Ram made 8.5mpg on the same test. There is a reason why people call Ecoboost "Eco or Boost" you dont get both. New Tundra engine wont be any different.
trucks would look like total garbage if you made them with a lower hood relative to the bed height. The hoods line tend to match up with the bed height. Try to draw a picture and youll see it.
they get "better" mpg ratings because turbos juice the govt testing when they run off boost. However in the real world, get on boost or start towing and the V6 turbos tank in mileage unless driven perfectly. Ecoboost towing makes worse mileage than competitors V8s. TFL Truck did a towing mpg test and the ecoboost hybrid made 6.5 mpg on their tow test, the Hemi V8 Ram made 8.5mpg on the same test. There is a reason why people call Ecoboost "Eco or Boost" you dont get both. New Tundra engine wont be any different.
06-22-21, 09:50 AM
#164
Lexus Champion
It looks like the dropping of the I-Force 5.7 V8 on the 2022 Tundra is a significant incentive for buyers to scoop up the remaining 2021 models. I suspect that JDR76 and gadgetman are far from alone in their views (or interest), both on the forum and in the general public at large.
