If Gas Cars Are Banned, Can The Grid Handle Electric Cars?
02-10-21, 01:20 PM
#16
Lexus Champion
02-10-21, 03:45 PM
#17
Lexus Test Driver
Depends on location, climate and other factors.
The power grid in NYC is old and unreliable. We have blackouts on a consistent basis throughout the year affecting various neighborhoods.
Also how will system handle charging millions of cars, powering millions of A/Cs on a hot/humid typical August summer day. I have serious doubts that this will be smooth process. It will need substantial investment and innovation.
The power grid in NYC is old and unreliable. We have blackouts on a consistent basis throughout the year affecting various neighborhoods.
Also how will system handle charging millions of cars, powering millions of A/Cs on a hot/humid typical August summer day. I have serious doubts that this will be smooth process. It will need substantial investment and innovation.
02-10-21, 04:19 PM
#18
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https://youtu.be/6ySK6XGS13M
This is the same guy? ^^^. The fate of the electrical grid is riding on his video....
This is the same guy? ^^^. The fate of the electrical grid is riding on his video....
02-10-21, 04:28 PM
#19
Lexus Fanatic
If the chief engineer of the Los Angeles electric grid did something similar....not sure Id take them seriously later down the road.
02-10-21, 04:36 PM
#20
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
If the chief engineer of the Los Angeles electric grid did something similar....not sure Id take them seriously later down the road.
02-10-21, 04:47 PM
#21
Lexus Fanatic
The real problem is not going to be so much power-production-capacity (although that is obviously quite important) but simply having enough recharging stations in enough places, period.. Many people who live in condos/high-rides or other homes that do not have outdoor charging-outlets (or indoor-outlets with outside-cord capabilities) are going to have issues recharging. These MUST be addressed if there is to be any real public acceptance of BEVs. Otherwise, one simply passes laws without thinking of how the result is going to be implemented.
02-10-21, 04:47 PM
#22
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In all seriousness, I am glad you enjoyed the video....I was just pointing out credibility...checking the facts behind those who claim them....usually claims of those in the video would be more scholarly and peered reviewed.... If you disagree with what I just said...fair enough..I don’t think much of the video as I already stated why...I will let others post on the topic and see what they say...moving on...
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02-10-21, 04:49 PM
#23
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Thread Starter
Originally Posted by mmarshall
The real problem is not going to be so much power-production-capacity (although that is obviously quite important) but simply having enough recharging stations in enough places, period.. Many people who live in condos/high-rides or other homes that do not have outdoor charging-outlets (or indoor-outlets with outside-cord capabilities) are going to have issues recharging. These MUST be addressed if there is to be any real public acceptance of BEVs. Otherwise, one simply passes laws without thinking of how the result is going to be implemented.
02-10-21, 05:18 PM
#24
EVs are only viable from a reliability/simplicity standpoint. If you think they are "greener" then you are incorrect. A BTU of energy is a BTU of energy and you dont use less energy by going electric. All that is achieved is moving the tail pipe from the back of the car to the smokestack at the power plant. There is no free lunch. All of the wind and solar power generated today makes up less and 10% of our nations energy supply. Natural gas is cleaner than gasoline so moving to that as a fuel source makes sense and it can go to generate electricity or you can put it in a tank on your vehicle. And yes, i am an engineer.
02-10-21, 05:19 PM
#25
Lexus Fanatic
EVs are only viable from a reliability/simplicity standpoint. If you think they are "greener" then you are incorrect. A BTU of energy is a BTU of energy and you dont use less energy by going electric. All that is achieved is moving the tail pipe from the back of the car to the smokestack at the power plant. There is no free lunch. All of the wind and solar power generated today makes up less and 10% of our nations energy supply. Natural gas is cleaner than gasoline so moving to that as a fuel source makes sense and it can go to generate electricity or you can put it in a tank on your vehicle. And yes, i am an engineer.
02-10-21, 05:27 PM
#26
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
EVs are only viable from a reliability/simplicity standpoint. If you think they are "greener" then you are incorrect. A BTU of energy is a BTU of energy and you dont use less energy by going electric. All that is achieved is moving the tail pipe from the back of the car to the smokestack at the power plant. There is no free lunch. All of the wind and solar power generated today makes up less and 10% of our nations energy supply. Natural gas is cleaner than gasoline so moving to that as a fuel source makes sense and it can go to generate electricity or you can put it in a tank on your vehicle. And yes, i am an engineer.
02-10-21, 05:28 PM
#27
Honestly not qualified to say but what i have understood is the safety aspects are a major hurdle (in the case of a collision and tank rupture).
I'll probably be kicked of the forum for saying this but i don't by the narrative that man is responsible for a significant part of the global warming issue. I believe in global warming but just don't believe that mans impact is significant. We all agree there was an ice age in our past and interestingly, it ended due to global warming without any internal combustion engines or factories in sight - just a bunch of cavemen.
All things said - i think natural gas is the best available answer.
I'll probably be kicked of the forum for saying this but i don't by the narrative that man is responsible for a significant part of the global warming issue. I believe in global warming but just don't believe that mans impact is significant. We all agree there was an ice age in our past and interestingly, it ended due to global warming without any internal combustion engines or factories in sight - just a bunch of cavemen.
All things said - i think natural gas is the best available answer.
02-10-21, 05:30 PM
#28
Lexus Champion
EVs are only viable from a reliability/simplicity standpoint. If you think they are "greener" then you are incorrect. A BTU of energy is a BTU of energy and you dont use less energy by going electric. All that is achieved is moving the tail pipe from the back of the car to the smokestack at the power plant. There is no free lunch. All of the wind and solar power generated today makes up less and 10% of our nations energy supply. Natural gas is cleaner than gasoline so moving to that as a fuel source makes sense and it can go to generate electricity or you can put it in a tank on your vehicle. And yes, i am an engineer.
