Lexus IS500 F SPORT Performance
#181
Lexus Test Driver
At least the IS500 now brings something special to the table and completely different than all the other makes. They may totally kill the Acura Type S sales...
#182
Lexus Fanatic
This is a nice surprise that gives us a little hope and hopefully some good sales.
I am hoping they learned their lesson from the GS-F and RC-F and don't price this too high. By going more F Sport but with the V8 I think that is the right direction which should lead to a much lower price. Most people just want the V8 and extra power, all the real/fake carbon fiber nonsense, huge brakes that cost a fortune to service, punishing trick suspension bits, look at me bodykits/exhaust that drive the price up are not very important. This should be in the 55K-59K price range, if they want to really go after the M3 with the huge brakes and suspension bits then make it a version of this but don't do a all or nothing approach with way too high of a price tag.
I wish the GS would have gotten this treatment instead, mainly just the V8 without all the racer stuff that inflates the price, it would have sold much better then that pointless hybrid. I really hope the LS gets this treatment too, they really have to, give it this V8, don't price it much higher then 6 cylinder and it could really help the struggling LS.
I am hoping they learned their lesson from the GS-F and RC-F and don't price this too high. By going more F Sport but with the V8 I think that is the right direction which should lead to a much lower price. Most people just want the V8 and extra power, all the real/fake carbon fiber nonsense, huge brakes that cost a fortune to service, punishing trick suspension bits, look at me bodykits/exhaust that drive the price up are not very important. This should be in the 55K-59K price range, if they want to really go after the M3 with the huge brakes and suspension bits then make it a version of this but don't do a all or nothing approach with way too high of a price tag.
I wish the GS would have gotten this treatment instead, mainly just the V8 without all the racer stuff that inflates the price, it would have sold much better then that pointless hybrid. I really hope the LS gets this treatment too, they really have to, give it this V8, don't price it much higher then 6 cylinder and it could really help the struggling LS.
#183
Lexus Fanatic
Agreed the numbers no longer match the engine size making it confusing - the only certainty is that Lexus sedans with a 500 (LS500, IS500, LC500) have over 400hp.
At least they went all in with the IS offerings: 4cyl, 6cyl, 8cyl, turbo, naturally aspirated, rwd, awd - a little something for everyone. Already looking ahead that a 3yr old CPO IS500 will be a hell of a value.
At least they went all in with the IS offerings: 4cyl, 6cyl, 8cyl, turbo, naturally aspirated, rwd, awd - a little something for everyone. Already looking ahead that a 3yr old CPO IS500 will be a hell of a value.
#184
Lexus Test Driver
Umm you are wrong here.
RCF has F exterior styling with the flared side curtain. F interior styling (seats, stitching etc) and F specific wheels with wider tire setup. It also features more suspension improvements, bigger 6piston caliper brakes etc.
Pricing for IS500 will be between IS350 and current RCF.
You also were denying everything in the Best Car mag - seems that LC-F and other F and Fsport models are coming......
RCF has F exterior styling with the flared side curtain. F interior styling (seats, stitching etc) and F specific wheels with wider tire setup. It also features more suspension improvements, bigger 6piston caliper brakes etc.
Pricing for IS500 will be between IS350 and current RCF.
You also were denying everything in the Best Car mag - seems that LC-F and other F and Fsport models are coming......
Mechanically, there's very little that's different between this IS and the RC-F. Some nicer seats aren't going to make the price difference be over $10K. The current IS350 F-Sport can already be had loaded up to $57K, and all its features are standard on the IS500.
#185
Lexus Test Driver
They should have never killed the GS. If they had a V8 offering priced at $70k, it would differentiate it much better than the ES cousin and had its own niche. Maybe they'll bring it back with this performance revival from Lexus.
#186
Lexus Fanatic
Agree, I said it from the get go, the 4th GS needed some kind of affordable V8 option with at least 400hp to create buzz and get more performance sales, the over priced hybrid was not going to sell or satisfy enthusiasts who can't or don't want to spend 90K for a GS-F. Instead they put a terrible 4 cylinder in it for some reason thinking that will spark sales/interest. Killing it was a bad move, they had options.
#188
Lexus Test Driver
#189
Lead Lap
100% agreed - they killed the GS but at least decided to go all in with the IS. Means there's hope for a performance oriented mid-sized sedan in the future as trends and demands shift.
#190
Pit Crew
#191
Lexus Test Driver
#193
Pit Crew
#194
Lexus Test Driver
Best Car Mag was claiming the IS would use a BMW inline 6. You're free to defend their nonsense lol, and I'm sure most of their other predictions will continue to be nonsense.
Mechanically, there's very little that's different between this IS and the RC-F. Some nicer seats aren't going to make the price difference be over $10K. The current IS350 F-Sport can already be had loaded up to $57K, and all its features are standard on the IS500.
Mechanically, there's very little that's different between this IS and the RC-F. Some nicer seats aren't going to make the price difference be over $10K. The current IS350 F-Sport can already be had loaded up to $57K, and all its features are standard on the IS500.
There are differences compared to this IS500 - some of which I listed for you already and you chose to ignore 🤔
Best Car predicted new Fmodel rollout in their most recent report which you denied over and over. Now at least one of the cars they predicted has come to fruition, let’s hope LC-F is next.