Lexus IS500 F SPORT Performance
09-13-21, 05:42 AM
#976
Lexus Champion
09-13-21, 05:49 AM
#977
Lexus Champion
LOL, you are talking about highly modified engines, and I have some experience with them. Quite frankly, they are just aids. Yeah they can be made to redline and produce a lot of power, at the expense of reliability and horrible idle and terrible driveability at low throttle in the lower RPM. Sorry but its not even a comparison.
You are right it's no comparison, a FBO tuned hellcat makes 1000 to the wheels and is a perfectly calm daily engine. Or a FBO LS3/7 or any modern V8 with mild forced induction really, stock everything and 8-10 psi retains all manners and makes more power than any stock car. That's why you never see imports at any competitive event, they just aren't at that level with a few Japanese exceptions that are boosted to hell and back and have very limited passes before overhaul.
But hey if you like stock you like stock. There are known combos though that are very civilized. If you don't want to build then get a German 4.0 engine and have it retuned for much more power and smoothness vs stock and you will be faster than any stock car on the streets. Just don't expect to hang against a modified car
09-13-21, 06:22 AM
#978
Not at all unless you are going max effort, to can easily get 800-1200hp with normal idle these days. Reliability is superb if you use an LS based design or a hemi, far in excess of any stock BMW engine in that metric.
You are right it's no comparison, a FBO tuned hellcat makes 1000 to the wheels and is a perfectly calm daily engine. Or a FBO LS3/7 or any modern V8 with mild forced induction really, stock everything and 8-10 psi retains all manners and makes more power than any stock car. That's why you never see imports at any competitive event, they just aren't at that level with a few Japanese exceptions that are boosted to hell and back and have very limited passes before overhaul.
But hey if you like stock you like stock. There are known combos though that are very civilized. If you don't want to build then get a German 4.0 engine and have it retuned for much more power and smoothness vs stock and you will be faster than any stock car on the streets. Just don't expect to hang against a modified car
You are right it's no comparison, a FBO tuned hellcat makes 1000 to the wheels and is a perfectly calm daily engine. Or a FBO LS3/7 or any modern V8 with mild forced induction really, stock everything and 8-10 psi retains all manners and makes more power than any stock car. That's why you never see imports at any competitive event, they just aren't at that level with a few Japanese exceptions that are boosted to hell and back and have very limited passes before overhaul.
But hey if you like stock you like stock. There are known combos though that are very civilized. If you don't want to build then get a German 4.0 engine and have it retuned for much more power and smoothness vs stock and you will be faster than any stock car on the streets. Just don't expect to hang against a modified car
09-13-21, 06:48 AM
#979
Lexus Test Driver
I think with proper suspension setup and wheels/tires, this will be sharp looking car. But that’s another $10k for mods.
09-13-21, 07:32 AM
#980
Everytime reliability and German cars are mentioned online it’s always I know a guy or my mechanic said. It’s almost a running joke at this point that nobody with a German car complains about their reliability.
09-13-21, 07:47 AM
#981
Pole Position
Truth of the matter is that reliability issues of Germans are overhyped. It's not that bad. It's bad but not THAT bad that majority of them suffer from horrific issues. It's upkeep that is a major pita when it comes to BMW, for example X5 goes through tires like crazy and so on.
09-13-21, 08:02 AM
#982
Lexus Champion
The reliability of any car (insert brand here) isn't as good or bad as some make them out to be. The overall reality is somewhere in the middle.
09-13-21, 08:04 AM
#983
Lexus Fanatic
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09-13-21, 08:08 AM
#984
Lexus Champion
Not really. I know a guy with an almost $200,000 new Range Rover Autobiography and it's been in the shop for a month. The shoe fits, as RR is rated the worst. What I do notice though is the sheer number of them around town. They're everywhere, must be one of the most popular high end SUVs around here.
09-13-21, 08:59 AM
#985
Lexus Champion
I've owned a few German cars so I know a bit about their reliability. I mentioned this earlier, reliability to a BMW or VW owner is viewed from a totally different lense than a Toyota or Honda owner. When I moved from German cars to Toyota, I realized what reliability actually was when things I thought were just supposed to break stopped breaking. I still to this day find myself asking, why doesn't my 10 year IS350, or my 14 year old Camry (with 160K of hard driven miles) or my 2013 Toyota Sienna with 146K leak or burn oil? Why????
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09-13-21, 10:27 AM
#986
Lexus Fanatic
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09-13-21, 10:41 AM
#987
Lexus Champion
09-13-21, 10:58 AM
#988
Lexus Champion
Eh, I have a lot of direct experience and they do break a lot more often and more importantly cost a lot more to fix the same issue vs other brands. Case in point if my turbos go it's technically a $13000 job, in reality it's less than $2000 to DIY with pure upgrades and less than $1000 to just fix it. It also doesn't require any particularly advanced skills if you are careful.
09-13-21, 03:01 PM
#989
Lexus Champion
Just saw the SmokingTire review of the IS500. He did it way way back in July but they just released the video to their channel on the 10th. I'll summarize...he loved it!
09-13-21, 03:09 PM
#990
Which Engines are you speaking about when Mentioning BMW? The B58 and ZF transmission are very reliable. I wouldn't be too concerned with long term reliability of that motor. Toyota is even using it. Also once the car is out of warranty, I don't think many people go back to the dealership due to price gouging. That goes for any brand, I had an Infiniti Red Sport and maintanance was NOT cheap. Even Oil Changes at the dealer were $140