theanimala

I know my sample size is small but I have had the total opposite experience with my Volvo’s and Audis. I had 2 A8s that were reliability nightmares. My wife has a nearly 3 year old XC90 and I have now have a 5 year old S90 and both have been absolutely trouble free.

patgilm

Another vote for Daytona Grey.

bitkahuna

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in need? really?

davyjordi

says the guy who just purchased an lc500

davyjordi

daytona grey is cool - but it's hard to find it with a red or grey interior. black seems to be most popular.

i'm on the fence between daytona grey and navarra blue. we'll see which dealership can offer me the best price as i have them compete against one another. i know sedans aren't selling, they know sedans aren't selling. the ball is in my court.

bitkahuna

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i certainly didn't need that either.

Hoovey689

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Compared to its predecessor, the G20 over 120lbs lighter than last generation despite being longer and wider. It also retains 50/50 weight distribution.

davyjordi

okok, it LOOKS like a porky pig.

no one is going to deny that most bmws as of late have become bloated as all hell.

davyjordi

i'm curious to know, as everyone is so critical of the s4, which compact sports luxury sedan you would all pick save for the m340i which i don't like the exterior nor the interior of.

RNM GS3

You can say that about new 4series for sure as its significantly larger than F32 4series and much uglier. The new 3series was a much better execution compared to F30 and grew only a little in size. I can tell you even the base 330i without Msport pack is a solid car with good driving dynamics. I have driven them a bit when my cars were in for service.

I would also highly recommend Model 3 if you have place to charge it.

RNM GS3

In order of preference:
Model 3
C43
IS350
Giulia
Q50

Test drive all and see which ones you like.

davyjordi

the model 3 was something that i truly did consider but living in southern california, they are everywhere and you just don't see as many audi s4s or volvos for that matter. hell, you don't even see very many x2 m35is or x2s in general. i like to not have what every other southern californian has but i'm not gonna go all alfa romeo giulia either and have the thing in the shop half of the time i own it.

it's honestly a more difficult task than i thought it would be and i'm considering now putting it off until more models are released but i kinda fear that the more i wait the fewer gas-powered options will be available. i read that the new c-class will only be available with i4s combined with some sort of electrification which yes, is good for the planet, but no, it's not good for me haha.

bitkahuna

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what about the upcoming genesis g70 major refresh?

davyjordi

^^ yeah, that's arriving in 2022, right? it's a good looking car, for sure. i think it's actually their best looking yet.

TheRas900

Sounds like you don’t need 4 doors - what about a BMW M240? Seems like the size and performance you are seeking.

I like the G70 and Guilia recommendations too, if you just don’t feel the M340 which is probably best in class. We’ve had 3 Volvos since 2012, including 2 S60’s, and never needed a repair. Caddy is even improving their game with the newest version of CT4.

The S4 is a great car and seems to be your preference. I’d go with the blue.😄

Good luck but while none might be perfect it’s hard to make a bad choice in this segment. Pick the one you like best.