2022 Lexus NX: Available as first plug-in hybrid
10-10-21, 08:57 AM
#226
Lexus Fanatic
Every single vid I've seen on the RAV and NX say the plug-in version is highly supply constrained. Which makes sense it's the only versions worth buying IMO.
10-10-21, 09:02 AM
#227
Lexus Fanatic
10-10-21, 09:07 AM
#228
Lexus Test Driver
Originally Posted by SW17LS
Its absolutely highly constrained
Toyota really planned it's battery supply chain badly. It's not like it's a huge battery either...super dinky.
10-10-21, 09:19 AM
#229
RAV4 Prime is about to selling 40,000 unit a year in the US alone (i think they sell more RAV4 primes that Genesis sells units). Not constrained at all. Toyota just limits the production intentionally as there is not enough of a market yet for Toyota plug in models
California has adopted their own emissions standards ignoring the EPA standards that apply to all of the USA. About 15 States have adopted the Cali Std and have formed what is called the CARB states or ZEV (zero emissions vehicles). So Toyota has agreed to follow the Carb states. Toyota gets some kind of credit from this group so they can sell more Tundra and gas guzzling models. This has the effect that Toyota will not sell RAV4 Primes in non-Carb states.
Living in Florida(non carb state) I have seen this happen. I have shopped a Rav4 prime for months and not one is for sale in Florida. The closest I could find one is in Maryland, NJ and NY. Even the new Venza is not available here. So I have been searching non Toyota models and saw the new Hyundai Santa Fe plug-in come out. On the their web page in Bold letters is the statements the model will not be available in NON CARB states! So Hyundai has joined the ban. I don't understand why these companies want to limit their sales of low emission models to all customers. (the credit they receive must be very good). Either the US Govt must act to apply a country wide standard or Florida must join the Carb states. I don't see either one happening soon.
So to finalize the New Lexus NX 450h+ will not be available to about 35 States as Motorola alluded to before.[/s]
Last edited by bitkahuna; 10-10-21 at 01:59 PM.
10-10-21, 10:10 AM
#230
Lexus Fanatic
RAV4 Prime is about to selling 40,000 unit a year in the US alone (i think they sell more RAV4 primes that Genesis sells units). Not constrained at all. Toyota just limits the production intentionally as there is not enough of a market yet for Toyota plug in models
California has adopted their own emissions standards ignoring the EPA standards that apply to all of the USA. About 15 States have adopted the Cali Std and have formed what is called the CARB states or ZEV (zero emissions vehicles). So Toyota has agreed to follow the Carb states. Toyota gets some kind of credit from this group so they can sell more Tundra and gas guzzling models. This has the effect that Toyota will not sell RAV4 Primes in non-Carb states.
Living in Florida(non carb state) I have seen this happen. I have shopped a Rav4 prime for months and not one is for sale in Florida. The closest I could find one is in Maryland, NJ and NY. Even the new Venza is not available here. So I have been searching non Toyota models and saw the new Hyundai Santa Fe plug-in come out. On the their web page in Bold letters is the statements the model will not be available in NON CARB states! So Hyundai has joined the ban. I don't understand why these companies want to limit their sales of low emission models to all customers. (the credit they receive must be very good). Either the US Govt must act to apply a country wide standard or Florida must join the Carb states. I don't see either one happening soon.
So to finalize the New Lexus NX 450h+ will not be available to about 35 States as Motorola alluded to before.
Last edited by bitkahuna; 10-10-21 at 01:59 PM.
10-10-21, 10:39 AM
#231
Lexus Fanatic
Just looked at the US website for the XC60. Volvos entry price is $54K….the NX outgoing is $37K…completely different class of vehicle. The electric range of the Volvo is pretty poor at just 19 miles. Such an uninspiring brand that Volvo is. I do acknowledge that there are some that really love the brand.
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 10-10-21 at 10:46 AM.
10-10-21, 11:08 AM
#232
10-10-21, 11:13 AM
#233
Lexus Fanatic
CR rates the 21 NX at 84, the XC60 is at 60. Not sure it really blows it away.
Edit: I only looked up recharge. But still Is $5K more at the starting price. Super boring design from my viewpoint. The outgoing NX was not any more appealing.
you don’t have to be so nasty.
. (It’s like every post)
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 10-10-21 at 11:30 AM.
10-10-21, 11:18 AM
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10-10-21, 11:53 AM
#236
Pole Position
10-10-21, 12:02 PM
#237
Lexus Fanatic
10-10-21, 12:05 PM
#238
Lexus Fanatic
10-10-21, 01:04 PM
#239
Jill, What's your source for the 40k??? So 100k very soon?? Are you a swami or what? Why would you post such drivel.
It only takes a few seconds to look at your past posts to see you did say in the US. You're getting just like marshall and never admitting you're wrong.
It only takes a few seconds to look at your past posts to see you did say in the US. You're getting just like marshall and never admitting you're wrong.
10-10-21, 01:07 PM
#240
Lexus Fanatic
In Q3, Toyota sold 10,000 RAV4 plug in models. At that pace, they should be at 40,000 per year next year. I haven’t checked the accuracy of InsideEVs which is just a blog site
https://insideevs.com/news/538095/us...es-2021q3/amp/
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 10-10-21 at 01:44 PM.