Insane Mirai incentives right now
03-11-21, 01:16 PM
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03-11-21, 01:20 PM
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Based on what I've seen on lease return Mirais from 2017, you're paying less than a used Corolla or Camry. The Toyota resale value doesn't seem to apply?
https://www.longotoyota.com/searchus...ta&Model=Mirai
Also, I've heard of shortage of fuel at stations around the Bay Area for weeks at a time. I'd make sure you have a petrol beater just in case.
https://www.longotoyota.com/searchus...ta&Model=Mirai
Also, I've heard of shortage of fuel at stations around the Bay Area for weeks at a time. I'd make sure you have a petrol beater just in case.
If you bought one for 18K new, the XLE model, and had 15K in free hydrogen, and drive it around for 3 years, you might even be able to come out positive on the car? Someone would buy this car for at least 8K...even for parts.
03-11-21, 02:06 PM
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I feel like this was more of a move to push the fully loaded Limited models, which tops out at $70K. At that price, it's in direct competition with Tesla's Model S, especially in California.
03-11-21, 05:13 PM
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I was thinking the same at first. However, here in CA the full incentive also applies to the XLE.
03-13-21, 11:36 AM
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No. 
The 'other factors' are they can't give this car away. why would anyone want a slow car with very little room in it that you can't fuel hardly anywhere? Apart from that it's great. 
But i guess toyota's desperate to get them in some people's hands/driveways so they (toyota) can get feedback on them.
The car only makes sense for the few that live right around a (reliable) hydrogen fueling station and want bragging rights for something 'different'. So clearly there's almost no market for it, and besides all that, this car has NO advantage over any other vehicle except i guess it's almost free.
I've not followed the new Mirai story too closely, but several things do not add up here. This is the biggest discount I've seen on a brand new model that has only been for sale for a short time. It has simply never happened before, even with the previous doggy model. There has to be other factors here that are not being revealed or discussed.
why would anyone want a slow car with very little room in it that you can't fuel hardly anywhere? Apart from that it's great. But i guess toyota's desperate to get them in some people's hands/driveways so they (toyota) can get feedback on them.The car only makes sense for the few that live right around a (reliable) hydrogen fueling station and want bragging rights for something 'different'. So clearly there's almost no market for it, and besides all that, this car has NO advantage over any other vehicle except i guess it's almost free.
03-13-21, 04:07 PM
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03-13-21, 04:14 PM
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The car only makes sense for the few that live right around a (reliable) hydrogen fueling station and want bragging rights for something 'different'. So clearly there's almost no market for it, and besides all that, this car has NO advantage over any other vehicle except i guess it's almost free.
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03-13-21, 10:47 PM
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No.
The 'other factors' are they can't give this car away. why would anyone want a slow car with very little room in it that you can't fuel hardly anywhere? Apart from that it's great. But i guess toyota's desperate to get them in some people's hands/driveways so they (toyota) can get feedback on them.
The car only makes sense for the few that live right around a (reliable) hydrogen fueling station and want bragging rights for something 'different'. So clearly there's almost no market for it, and besides all that, this car has NO advantage over any other vehicle except i guess it's almost free.
The 'other factors' are they can't give this car away.
why would anyone want a slow car with very little room in it that you can't fuel hardly anywhere? Apart from that it's great. But i guess toyota's desperate to get them in some people's hands/driveways so they (toyota) can get feedback on them.The car only makes sense for the few that live right around a (reliable) hydrogen fueling station and want bragging rights for something 'different'. So clearly there's almost no market for it, and besides all that, this car has NO advantage over any other vehicle except i guess it's almost free.
03-29-21, 07:43 PM
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No.
The 'other factors' are they can't give this car away. why would anyone want a slow car with very little room in it that you can't fuel hardly anywhere? Apart from that it's great. But i guess toyota's desperate to get them in some people's hands/driveways so they (toyota) can get feedback on them.
The car only makes sense for the few that live right around a (reliable) hydrogen fueling station and want bragging rights for something 'different'. So clearly there's almost no market for it, and besides all that, this car has NO advantage over any other vehicle except i guess it's almost free.
The 'other factors' are they can't give this car away.
why would anyone want a slow car with very little room in it that you can't fuel hardly anywhere? Apart from that it's great. But i guess toyota's desperate to get them in some people's hands/driveways so they (toyota) can get feedback on them.The car only makes sense for the few that live right around a (reliable) hydrogen fueling station and want bragging rights for something 'different'. So clearly there's almost no market for it, and besides all that, this car has NO advantage over any other vehicle except i guess it's almost free.
Almost free for a car this nice is a damn good advantage.
03-29-21, 07:45 PM
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Again, that does not address the fact that Toyota did not have to dump the previous Mirai model this badly in California (where there is some fueling infrastructure). And that old model looked 100 times uglier than the new one. According to all reviews, this new one is considered to be one of the best looking Toyotas in recent times. I know styling has little to do with a car in this caliber, but things still don't add up if you compare pricing and incentives to the previous dog that had been out for five or so years already.
03-29-21, 07:51 PM
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I plan to squeeze 6 years out of the $15k fuel card and use it for my business. My math has the car coming out free to drive for 6 years (probably about 50k miles) and my only cost is insurance went up about $80 a month (also tax deduction).
03-29-21, 07:55 PM
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My biggest negative is that for such a long car it has small rear seats. It's basically a 3 seater since there's no room for anyone behind me with the seat pushed back. Not a big deal since it's mainly me in the car since I use it for work.
03-29-21, 07:59 PM
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Except you have to pressurize hydrogen to 10,000 psi. It takes an exceptional amount of energy to do that...about ~2-3x more energy than filling up an equivalent BEV. The grid will need approximately 30% more electricity to supply BEV on a national scale or 60-90% more for hydrogen.