i'm sure the porsche taycan's handling is incredible, AND it has the speed.

i got my LC *because* it's not sterile... a tesla 3 performance is much faster in a straight line (don't know about cornering, but the LC is plenty awesome enough for me). a silent bullet
the lexus v8 is incredible of course, and the exhaust tuning and sound add to that. it's a bit like a thug in an armani suit.

 

The Model 3 has good handling. Its not M3 good but its like an M340 so very competent but a little numb on feel. In overall capability, its in the highest bracket for autocross because it annihilated the lower brackets. https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/ne...-way-top-rung/

It's nowhere as good as an LC for overall feel though...spec doesn't matter for the LC. Its the perfect blend of performance and feel for its class.

 

I find the duality of the Tesla cult fascinating.

On one hand, they want the middle class to purchase a $65K car to save the planet in 10 years whilst supporting rocket launches that spew tons of C02.

 

Not all Tesla fans are Space X fans. The vast majority of Tesla sales are under $65k.

 

Who is they exactly? Are you referring to me?

 

They are wrong. People buy Lambos as an extension of their manhood. The shorter the better. 3.2s is better than the 3.4s of the man parked next to him.

 

i'm sure 3 wins autocross because of instant throttle out of corners more than handling. plus all the weight on the bottom helps for sure. wonder how many runs you get on a full charge.

 

Plenty of autocross runs as they don't heat up the battery so much. As long as you have over 70% SoC, your times should remain pretty consistent. Mine comes with PS4s so it has tons of grip. Its too softly sprung for true track use though but overall handling is pretty neutral and good with no minimal understeer. It only weights 4k lbs and completely 50/50 weight distribution so not surprising. The biggest trait reducing track effectiveness isn't handling but battery heat and capacity.

 

You seem to suggest that (manhood) is short 0-60 times. I beg to differ. That is not manhood, but being a speed-freak.

 

Speed has played a significant role in defining Lamborghini's image since the brand's inception in 1963, but the type of velocity it aims to achieve is changing direction. One of its top executives opined that handling, not 0-60-mph times or maximum speed, is the new benchmark in the supercar segment the company calls home.

Francesco Scardaoni, the head of the Italian company's Asia-Pacific operations, explained achieving the quickest possible sprint from 0-60 mph and the highest possible top speed used to be what defined a Lamborghini. Rivals aimed to rule the chart, too, so exotic brands spend decades taking turns trying to outgun each other by shaving a tenth of a second from — or adding a few miles per hour to — their respective times. EVs moved the goalpost in the 2010s, according to Scardaoni, because their powertrain develops maximum torque right away.

"If you go back to 10 years ago, probably when we were asked the parameters to measure a car with we would say top speed, acceleration, and then handling. Top speed then became a secondary measure, and acceleration the first one. Now, basically [with electrification] is no more that important. because it's quite easy for those kind of power units to have amazing results in acceleration," he explained in an interview with Car Advice.

Exemplified by the Huracán STO introduced in 2020, the shift represents a dramatic about-face for the engineering team led by Maurizio Reggiani. Speed is easy to quantify; if we tell you that a Bugatti Chiron takes 2.4 seconds to reach 60 mph from a full stop, or that it maxes out at 304 mph, you know exactly what it can do. Handling, on the other hand, is difficult to put a number on. Gs on a skidpad is one measure, but that's only a small part of the handling equation. There's no unit of measurement that describes how a Divo feels on a winding Sicilian road.

Scardaoni hinted that focusing on handling is a way to keep exotic supercars relevant in the coming years. Electric hypercars are ostensibly on their way, including the Rimac C_Two and the Pininfarina Battista. Closely related, both allegedly take under two seconds to sprint from 0-60 mph thanks in part to a 1,900-horsepower drivetrain, yet they weigh approximately 4,300 pounds; they're heavier than a Mercedes-Benz S-Class. Neither are in the same league as, say, the Huracán, but they're good examples of the pros and cons of electrified performance.

"What is really now making the difference is the drivability of the car, the handling. Because, when you have good acceleration but the car is heavy to steer, heavy to handle, you cannot have that pleasure of driving in a really fast way," he told the Australian publication. It will be interesting to see how this focus shapes Lamborghini's next cars; the Aventador's replacement is around the corner, and we already know that it will pack a hybrid powertrain.[/QUOTE]

I totally agree. Zero to sixty is great, but it doesn't compromise fun necessarily. It's like the 911 Turbo S vs the upcoming GT3. There's no doubt the GT3 (especially with the manual) will be the more fun car, but it's much slower naught to 60. It's also like how I recently drove a Model 3 Dual Motor. I think it does 0-60 in something like 4 seconds. It was cool and all, but I think my 2013 S5 is much more fun, even though it's about a second slower to 60.

 

Thanks to tax dollars.

EV shills and eco fascists.

 

Then talk about those groups without quoting me and making insinuations I have nothing to do with whatever boogie man groups you think are out there and honestly I don't care.

 

Why does every thread need to be ruined by the Tesla nonsense?

 

tesla is the new vegan and crossfit. They remind you 10x

 

agreed folks, lets leave tesla out of this... i personally hope lambos don't go away. they're wild, flamboyant, crazy, showy, not something i'd ever own but they are cool.