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Old 05-04-21, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
The study is exhaustive and comprehensive, not that you actually read it.
i don't think your post included a link to the actual study for us to become edjumicated.
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Old 05-04-21, 10:47 AM
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mmarshall has the link I'll post it later if he doesn't.
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
mmarshall has the link I'll post it later if he doesn't.

No, the link I did in the OP was in reference to the so-called VW name-change, not anything to do with dieselgate.
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Old 05-04-21, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
Haha. That is a good one.
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here's the link to the vaunted 'peer reviewed' study Guardian article mentioned in the wikipedia article on dieselgate that LeX2K quoted:

VW emissions cheat estimated to cause 59 premature US deaths | Pollution | The Guardian

the study itself:
Impact of the Volkswagen emissions control defeat device on US public health - IOPscience
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
and yet somehow you always find something.

not even sure what we're really arguing about... that 'dieselgate' destroyed the diesel market, or that it destroyed vw? neither is true. vw may have caused european eco-sensitive consumers guilt to buy something else, but there's still MILLIONS of diesel cars in europe (probably the vast majority of all vehicles). but euro govt will finish them off over time by banning ALL fossil fuel vehicles, not just diesels. as for vw, they seem to be doing just fine.
I drive a 2018 diesel, my wife drives a 2019 diesel, most of my friends drive diesels. My next car will be a diesel - given the choice I'll always choose diesel over petrol (gas) because I prefer the performance and responsiveness - and the much better mpg it achieves. With regard to emissions; my car has SCR (ad blue) so nothing comes out the back but fresh air and bunny farts. I'm sure that in the future the choice will be taken away from me, but until then..
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I actually had one of the offending Vee-Dubs - ‘12 Jetta TDI. Awesome car - for what it was! Took the $$$ from the settlement and bought the LS460 for the wife (while kids took over the CX9). Statistically most reliable car I’ve ever owned - exactly 0, zilch, nada problems in 70+k miles we put on it. You didn’t even know you were driving the “polluting” diesel, until you pulled up at the pump. My guess is, one of the “deleted” 3/4 - 1ton pickups (which there are plenty of) pollutes more than 10 “cheating” Jettas/Golfs/etc.
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Originally Posted by Big Andy
I drive a 2018 diesel, my wife drives a 2019 diesel, most of my friends drive diesels. My next car will be a diesel - given the choice I'll always choose diesel over petrol (gas) because I prefer the performance and responsiveness - and the much better mpg it achieves. With regard to emissions; my car has SCR (ad blue) so nothing comes out the back but fresh air and bunny farts. I'm sure that in the future the choice will be taken away from me, but until then..
yup, thanks for sharing. my family and friends in the uk all drive diesels and have no intention of changing (until forced to i guess).
i've driven rented diesels in the uk that were so smooth i would have had no idea they were diesels if i didn't know from the paperwork. and as you say, GREAT fuel economy!
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