actually not... 4 years ago f150's were down to only 25% v8.

V8 Market Share in the Ford F-150 Down to Just a Quarter (thetruthaboutcars.com)

Ford slowing 5.0-liter V8 production for the F-150 in Windsor, Ontario | Autoblog

 

Nothing wrong with a V8...great engines. I'm just making an educated guess on how the industry has been moving. The diesels will remain in production for awhile until they get solid state perfected. For light vehicles like cars and crossovers, the EV is great as long as they build the infrastructure appropriately. LC500 is a great driver's car but if I wanted a car in that price range, Model S Plaid for me

 

EVs seem to sell pretty well...



https://www.axios.com/electric-vehic...ectricvehicles

The electric vehicle sales surge

Ben Geman, author of GenerateIllustration: Lazaro Gamio/Axios

Tesla's stock was up over 7% in premarket trading this morning after it reported record deliveries in the year's first quarter on Friday. But it's not the only manufacturer seeing sales increases this year.

Why it matters: Even as gasoline-powered sales return from the pandemic, cars with plugs are going faster, albeit from a much smaller base.

• "It’s clear EV sales, both in the U.S. and globally, are increasing on a percentage basis faster than traditional internal combustion vehicles," iSeeCars.com analyst Karl Brauer tells Axios.
• "Multiple automakers have introduced high-volume models in the past 12 months, with Tesla’s Model Y and Ford’s Mach-E being two prime examples," he said in an email.

Driving the news: Tesla beat analysts' expectations with 184,800 deliveries.

The full EV sector's Q1 tallies are still emerging, though Tesla is the leading player.

But individual company figures and a Morgan Stanley research note have some noteworthy numbers.

• Over 181,000 fully electric vehicles were sold worldwide in February, which is up 138% compared to February 2020, per Morgan Stanley and data partner EV-Volumes. And January's numbers were even higher.
• Several major automakers saw increases, including Ford, thanks to the initial deliveries of its new Mustang Mach-E.
• Ford said in a separate release that it sold 6,614 in the U.S. despite what amounts to a cameo on dealer lots so far.
• GM reported that U.S. Q1 sales of its Bolt EV are up over 50% compared to last year.

The intrigue: Higher figures are likely in part related to the pandemic, but that alone doesn't account for the acceleration.

Its full effects were not apparent in early 2020, and unlike internal combustion models, EV sales actually rose last year.

But, but, but: EVs still represent a very small (but rising!) fraction of total sales, and the U.S. lags behind China and Europe.

• Per Morgan Stanley, fully electric cars were 2.3% of U.S. sales in February, compared to 6.3% in Europe and 7.9% in China.
• U.S. manufacturers face battery supply chain challenges.
• And the global chip shortage is affecting the overall industry, threatening production and sales.

What's next: A fuller picture of global Q1 EV sales will emerge in the coming days.

 

Where are they outlawing specific engine configurations/cylinder counts now in new cars? Where is the evidence or is it just something you want to happen?

Most countries have not agreed to enact electrification as law in 2030/ban ICE, a few European countries have or at least made statements/signed some things that likely can be reversed once the horrible realities set in, China kind of did but then backed off, not sure about Canada but that is not "most countries". It is totally unrealistic for most countries to do that, it is highly unrealistic for even the countries attempting to do it once realities set in. You don't know what most customers think, many do still want V8's in their luxury cars, especially flagships, performance GT coupes, muscle cars, and more expensive sports cars along with full sized pickups.

 

No question they are increasing. But let's put things into perspective. 2.3% of all vehicles sold in the US are BEVs--and there are what, 30-40 different models from a dozen or more manufacturers, that all contribute to that? For a little contrast, 5.3% of all vehicles sold in the US are Ford F-150s.

 

ICE bans include V8's too you know.

It's not something I want to happen, it's something that will happen. Unless you can find some way to kick every country out of the Paris Climate Agreement.

 

Okay but you specifically said V8's when I have not heard of any legislation or talk of banning only certain ICE configurations or cylinder counts. It is not like a V8 will be specifically banned when a 6 or 4 cylinder won't so Hyundai could continue to offer/update V8's without worry of having them banned.

There is no reality to banning ICE/forced EV by 2030 for all countries, most countries or likely some countries unless those countries are small with small populations, I doubt it could happen by 2040, I hope these blowhard politicians realize this and take a steady tactful approach to this before creating much worse problems.

 

Of course its a small number now but the point is that the sales growth is increasing too. They've already exceeded 5% in Europe and China so the claim that no one buys EVs is ridiculous. People are buying EVs and the momentum is increasing. This is only 2021...the goal is mostly EVs by 2035. Not even Toyota can ignore EVs anymore as evidenced by their recent announcements.

 

Hyundai won't offer a new V8 because it won't be out in the market long enough or in enough volume to pay for itself before all ICE's get banned. Their current engines will go away by then too, but at least they're already out and can recoup their costs in higher volume models. That's what I was getting at. Same applies to every other non-American OEM.

You can doubt, but you are not the one making the decisions.

 

As far as I know, China and India, two of the world's largest new-vehicle-markets, never joined the Paris Agreement to start with.

 

They already have. If anything, China and India are more strict on emissions than even the Europeans.

https://climateactiontracker.org/cou...s-and-targets/
https://climateactiontracker.org/cou...s-and-targets/

 

so about that genesis concept...

 

Looks like Genesis is actually considering turning this into a production model.

 

If it looked exactly like that, they can go ahead and send me the Venmo info.

 

Man, this is a tough call for me between this and the LC.