Toys4RJill

I am kind of interested in how the G80 EV works out. I like the fact that Hyundai is making ICE and EV off the same chassis. I find the KIA and Hyundai dedicated EVs very unappealing, but this will interesting from a manufacturing perspective.

bitkahuna

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the g80 was designed to be an EV, but being both ICE and EV means there's some pretty huge compromises. i guess they put some of the battery in the front and the rest under the rear passenger area and some of the trunk. the range isn't great but apart from that, it should be a great car.

as for the battery being only slightly larger than the ioniq 5, why would it be bigger? the ioniq 5 is NOT a small vehicle. it's wheelbase is apparently bigger than a palisade! of course some of that comes from being EV/RWD vs ICE/FWD.

Motorola

That was actually me referencing a point I had made earlier in the thread about how I expected the G80 and Ioniq 5 to have very similar battery sizes and range because they shared an identical wheelbase, so if anything I was right on the mark lol.

I don't think the compromises in space are too bad because they're the same as what we see in a lot of hybrids like the ES300H. Personally I would take an EV powertrain over a hybrid anyday.

bitkahuna

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Hybrids certainly are a compromise. I call them frankenstein cars. they've come a long way but i don't see myself ever owning one.

Motorola

C&D just tested it. 4.1s 0-60, 95 MPGe with a 280 mile range in highway cruising. Genesis underrated this car in pretty much every metric.

Tested: 2023 Genesis Electrified G80 Bridges the EV Gap

It's more efficient than the EQS and it wouldn't surprise me if it had better range than the EQE500.

TangoRed

I'd be very surprised if the range of the EQE500 is under 300mi. Despite it's relatively lackluster efficiency, the EQS have been hitting its range estimates easily in highway tests as well and I don't expect the EQE to be any different. Hyundai/Kia/Genesis' dedication to efficiency is remarkable and is easily going to cement them as front runners in the EV space. I actually got to sit in an Electrified G80 during a recent business trip and wow that back seat got compromised - that's where the lack of a dedicated platform became extremely apparent. I hope the GV70 doesn't suffer a similar fate. Otherwise I'd call this a winner.

Motorola

I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's less for the EQE. The battery size is significantly smaller than the EQS's and around the same as the G80 EV's (90.6 vs 87.2 kWh) and it'll weigh a few hundred pounds more than the G80 too. Unless Mercedes has battery chemistry or thermal management that is superior to Hyundai's, which doesn't seem to be the case with the EQS given its relative inefficiency, I don't see how it would have better range. I'm sure we'll find out soon enough when the EQE500 starts getting reviewed and tested.

The back seat is compromised on the G80 EV compared to the ICE, but the EQE suffers some of the same issues like the raised floor and low roofline for the passengers. It does seem to have more legroom though.

pbm317

Getting one of these for a week soon. Let me know if there's anything specific anyone wants to know/see.

Toys4RJill

$80K

5000lbs

4.2 seconds

282 miles




source: https://www.carsdirect.com/automotiv...ed-from-80-920

Toys4RJill

I think US site. Available in only 8 states. https://www.carscoops.com/2022/08/ge...-eight-states/

https://www.carsdirect.com/automotiv...ed-from-80-920

JDR76

I'm having a hard time with these two sentences:
How is $80,920 "more than double" $50,595? Am I missing something obvious or is math completely failing me today?

bitkahuna

iTrader: (20)

it's the new math the kids today learn.

Motorola

The current gas G80 is loaded at $74K. An extra $6K for a far faster electric version that also comes loaded isn't much more at all.

pbm317

So far so smooth with the electrified G80 this week. It's a far better luxury ride than the G80 Sport we drove earlier this year. Good electric push in Sport mode, but there's still a bit of weight to it, as with all EVs. The gas G80 Sport isn't exactly a canyon carver either though.

On the positive side, the range is shaping up to be well north of the estimated 282 miles. We're on track to hit nearly 350 miles, and that's with plenty of streaming highway speeds (tougher for EVs) as well as the A/C cranked and massage seat going, etc. Pretty "efficient" with the electricity as well at over 3.7 miles/kWh thus far. That's more efficient than our smaller Polestar 2 is.

SW17LS

Watching some videos on this now, this car to me is very compelling. It looks great, looks and feels like a car and man if you can get over 300 miles of range, that’s tempting.