Scotty talks about Tesla’s being green
05-07-21, 09:37 AM
#138
Lexus Test Driver
The Plaid Model on sale now will do 0-60 in about 2 seconds flat. So 1/2 second faster than the Taycan Turbo S but will be cheaper with more range. The Model 3 is faster than a $100k Taycan 4s with the same range at about 1/2 the price. Nothing Ford sells currently can catch a Model Y but the new GT Mach E may come close to the Model Y Performance but will be more expensive due to a bigger battery but should have equivalent range. Tesla is 3 or more years ahead of the competition still.
05-07-21, 09:41 AM
#139
Lexus Fanatic
The Plaid Model on sale now will do 0-60 in about 2 seconds flat. So 1/2 second faster than the Taycan Turbo S but will be cheaper with more range. The Model 3 is faster than a $100k Taycan 4s with the same range at about 1/2 the price. Nothing Ford sells currently can catch a Model Y but the new GT Mach E may come close to the Model Y Performance but will be more expensive due to a bigger battery but should have equivalent range. Tesla is 3 or more years ahead of the competition still.
05-07-21, 09:48 AM
#140
Lexus Test Driver
05-07-21, 09:53 AM
#141
Carbon credits is not a new idea probably goes back to the Kyoto Protocol or earlier. The term has 70 million search hits if that's a hidden tax, conspiracy or some other nefarious scheme it's the worst kept secret ever.
edit- google tells me carbon credits have been around since the 90's at least.
edit- google tells me carbon credits have been around since the 90's at least.
05-07-21, 09:54 AM
#142
Lexus Fanatic
I understand that Porsche has 800V architecture…what is Tesla at?
05-07-21, 09:59 AM
#143
Lexus Test Driver
Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
I understand that Porsche has 800V architecture…what is Tesla at?
05-07-21, 10:01 AM
#145
Where did you see them catch up to Tesla? The old Model S still beats everyone in terms of range and efficiency and its not even close. EQS has the range but significantly underpowered and the Taycan has the power but significantly less range. Toyota has been making motors for longer but they don't even build an EV and their motors are pathetically weak. So when all other arguments fail, the profitability trope arises again?
EQS - 108kWh, ~400 miles of range, 4.3 to 60
Taycan - 93 kWh, 260 miles of range, 2.8 to 60
Model S - 100 kWh 400 miles of range 3.1 to 60
Model S Plaid ?kWh 520 miles of range, <2s to 60
EQS - 108kWh, ~400 miles of range, 4.3 to 60
Taycan - 93 kWh, 260 miles of range, 2.8 to 60
Model S - 100 kWh 400 miles of range 3.1 to 60
Model S Plaid ?kWh 520 miles of range, <2s to 60
05-07-21, 10:03 AM
#146
Lexus Test Driver
Originally Posted by Och
Lets not forget to take Teslas claims with a healthy dose of BS.
05-07-21, 10:07 AM
#148
Lexus Fanatic
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None of this is difficult, and to claim that major OEMs are incompetent and can't design a similar battery pack is delusional. I don't know what's preventing them from doing so, perhaps Tesla is getting government subsidies that others are not, or maybe they are deliberately being held back. Again, it just doesn't make sense for them to buy carbon credits from Tesla when they are perfectly capable of building their own EVs, and have demonstrated their ability with cars like the Leaf, 500e, Focus EV, and so on.
The Plaid Model on sale now will do 0-60 in about 2 seconds flat. So 1/2 second faster than the Taycan Turbo S but will be cheaper with more range. The Model 3 is faster than a $100k Taycan 4s with the same range at about 1/2 the price. Nothing Ford sells currently can catch a Model Y but the new GT Mach E may come close to the Model Y Performance but will be more expensive due to a bigger battery but should have equivalent range. Tesla is 3 or more years ahead of the competition still.
i know you're all about the speeds but MOST consumers don't care that much. but it's obviously what has attracted a lot of decent income younger techie buyers. also of note, tesla owners are OVERWHELMINGLY male.
05-07-21, 10:09 AM
#149
Lexus Test Driver
Not deceptive at all. Giving you exactly what was advertised. It also said quarter mile in about 9.3s and less than 9s for the Plaid Plus. Tesla puts the Model 3 at 3.1s and people have already beaten that at the track. Tesla performance figures are very exact and have been verified hundreds of times at the strip. There is a dedicated thread on people's draggy times for each model on the forums and people have always bested Tesla's claims. Go look for yourself.
05-07-21, 10:11 AM
#150
Not deceptive at all. Giving you exactly what was advertised. It also said quarter mile in about 9.3s and less than 9s for the Plaid Plus. Tesla puts the Model 3 at 3.1s and people have already beaten that at the track. Tesla performance figures are very exact and have been verified hundreds of times at the strip. There is a dedicated thread on people's draggy times for each model on the forums and people have always bested Tesla's claims. Go look for yourself.