By the way, did anyone know there is a new Fiat 500e, but its only on sale in Europe. I only found out today by googling the old 500e. There is virtually no information about it in the US. Had it been on sale in USA, with the right price, I would seriously consider it. And again, it makes no sense that Fiat Chrysler buys carbon credits from Tesla when they have their own EV that is getting great reviews. Who is strong arming them from keeping it out of USA, and even keeping information about it out of USA?

https://www.fiat.com/500-electric#

 

And apparently an electric Mini is coming. I think I know my next car, lol.

https://www.miniusa.com/model/electric-hardtop.html

 

Some great EVs that are not yet on Sale in the US.

 

Change of heart? This coming from the person who takes every opportunity to point out how EVs are being forced on us, how you can't charge easily in NYC and how EVs are just a lot of hoopla and and a fad that will disappear soon? Wow, complete 180 degree turn.

 

Not at all. I had a deposit placed on a Nissan Leaf back in 2013, but they couldnt get me one, I had a thread on here about this. However I do not like EVs being forced, I want to get one based on merit not on govt regulation.

 

114 miles of range? That's what 80 in the winter? Forget about a ski trip to the Poconos you can barely drive to the Gap one way without running out of juice. City bound puddle jumper.

 

Yep, I believe there is a huge market for a practical city EV as a second car. Perfect for daily errands.

 

Original Leaf battery is junk horrible degradation you dodged a bullet.

 

Their BMS was junk. Passive cooling and doesn't even fast charge. The reason the car companies buy credits is because even if they build the cars, no one buys them. Compliance cars are available everywhere bit you don't see eGolfs and e500s anywhere. Honda built the Clarity but no one bought them. Without a high advertised range, consumers aren't willing to buy EVs. The ones that do have good range are selling out everywhere. Tesla sold out their entire quarter supply already and are taking orders for cars months ahead in advance. Mach Es are also being sold as fast as they make them.

Stellantis and Honda better get their act together. World is changing pretty quickly and they haven't reacted well.

 

and unprofitable companies like Tesla need to sell such credits to off set the difficulty of making profits.

 

Awesome 👍👍

 

Doesn't matter Jill. Their stock is based on growth and they make a ton of cash flow from their car sales to fund future growth. You keep saying the same meaningless trope.

 

It absolutely matters. Tesla’s profits come from their sales of credits. I think Toyota sells their credits as well.

 

Not for growth stocks. If it mattered, Tesla wouldn't be worth more than 2x Toyota. As long they are growing their sales, nobody cares. Seriously.

 

You simply don't know because the companies did give consumers the ability to buy them. I was trying to buy, and couldn't. And I personally don't care about long range, I am not interested in a long range EV because I would never want to take it on a long trip. I have zero interest in having to plan out my route tied to electric chargers, waste times at charging facilities and so on. For a long trip an ICE is way to go. But as a second car, a practical, inexpensive EV is perfect, as long as its range is over 50 miles.