Industry chip shortage
08-20-21, 03:03 PM
#31
Short of programming the keys, independent shops are still able to do most of this work. They just need to have the right software.
The real reason manufacturers use so many chips has more to do with their lack of vertical integration. They buy modules from suppliers (i.e. safety systems) and have to make them all talk to each other (i.e. safety systems to brakes, instrument cluster, etc.). Prior to the pandemic manufacturers were already talking about writing their own operating systems to standardize and better integrate all of the various systems in their cars. Volkswagen publicly said their Arteon (depending on options) could have up to 70 different control units operating with software from 200 suppliers with them all needing to be networked.
The real reason manufacturers use so many chips has more to do with their lack of vertical integration. They buy modules from suppliers (i.e. safety systems) and have to make them all talk to each other (i.e. safety systems to brakes, instrument cluster, etc.). Prior to the pandemic manufacturers were already talking about writing their own operating systems to standardize and better integrate all of the various systems in their cars. Volkswagen publicly said their Arteon (depending on options) could have up to 70 different control units operating with software from 200 suppliers with them all needing to be networked.
08-20-21, 03:53 PM
#34
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
Great video on the chip shortage. Once again, China screws the world.
08-20-21, 04:43 PM
#35
Lexus Fanatic
Don't blame China, how about we start making more semiconductors in the United States.
08-20-21, 05:17 PM
#37
One mfg line inside can easily be $10B to $15B more; depending on tech node.
I worked in SEMI for 25 years here in Silicon Valley.
08-20-21, 05:45 PM
#39
You may remember “Potato chips, computer chips, what’s the difference?” That was the beginning of offshore manufacturing.
But times are changing Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Compamy (TSMC) is the biggest chip foundry in the world.
They have begun a new foundry in Arizona which will cost about $13B and take 1.5 years to complete.
It is a 5nm node, and will be used for new Apple chips I believe. "5nm technology node", or node, or geometry, refers to the width of the smallest traces (wires) on the densest layer of the chip.
5nm is 5 billionths of a meter. Yup. This is why you can have millions of transistors on a chip.
FYI, this dense geometry is not generally used in auto chips, except in AI applications like in a Tesla. But this too is changing.
There is so much more...
08-20-21, 06:53 PM
#40
The gal in the video touched on this; she mentioned politics which I would stay away from but is a key issue.
You may remember “Potato chips, computer chips, what’s the difference?” That was the beginning of offshore manufacturing.
But times are changing Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Compamy (TSMC) is the biggest chip foundry in the world.
They have begun a new foundry in Arizona which will cost about $13B and take 1.5 years to complete.
It is a 5nm node, and will be used for new Apple chips I believe. "5nm technology node", or node, or geometry, refers to the width of the smallest traces (wires) on the densest layer of the chip.
5nm is 5 billionths of a meter. Yup. This is why you can have millions of transistors on a chip.
FYI, this dense geometry is not generally used in auto chips, except in AI applications like in a Tesla. But this too is changing.
There is so much more...
You may remember “Potato chips, computer chips, what’s the difference?” That was the beginning of offshore manufacturing.
But times are changing Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Compamy (TSMC) is the biggest chip foundry in the world.
They have begun a new foundry in Arizona which will cost about $13B and take 1.5 years to complete.
It is a 5nm node, and will be used for new Apple chips I believe. "5nm technology node", or node, or geometry, refers to the width of the smallest traces (wires) on the densest layer of the chip.
5nm is 5 billionths of a meter. Yup. This is why you can have millions of transistors on a chip.
FYI, this dense geometry is not generally used in auto chips, except in AI applications like in a Tesla. But this too is changing.
There is so much more...
08-21-21, 08:24 AM
#42
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
Tesla AI etc posts deleted. This thread is about the industry chip shortage, not tesla dojo super computers, etc.
edit: moved LeX2K's post to a new thread here: https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...dojo-chip.html
edit: moved LeX2K's post to a new thread here: https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...dojo-chip.html
Last edited by bitkahuna; 08-21-21 at 08:33 AM.
08-21-21, 08:25 AM
#43
Pole Position
EDIT: just checked, yes there is Toyota/Scion/Lexus TIS alternative software relasead on the scene with full activation.
Last edited by Vladi; 08-21-21 at 08:30 AM.
08-21-21, 08:39 AM
#44
Not sure if anyone has warez Toyota/Lexus yet but German cars offloaded databases are all over the internet ready for the grabs. Problem is if something is missing (not being ripped off the server and included in the warez download) then there is nothing you can do about it. Also maintenance for new models is very iffy, you have to wait for someone to realease it. But many shops liive with the piracy database.
EDIT: just checked, yes there is Toyota/Scion/Lexus TIS alternative software relasead on the scene with full activation.
EDIT: just checked, yes there is Toyota/Scion/Lexus TIS alternative software relasead on the scene with full activation.
P.S. - years ago Toyota allowed anyone to buy access to Techstream for like $20 for one day, not anymore.
08-21-21, 02:35 PM
#45
Singapore has ridiculous car taxes and annual registration fees like $50-100k/vehicle.