Toys4RJill

It is not aa bad as I thought, I was wrong. the initial warranty is 10y or 240,000km for 90%. The option is to 1 million km at 70%

spwolf

not that it is not bad, it is crazy good.

nicedude

With the updated WLTP range and better than expected efficiency, Toyota should get an updated EPA rating in the US too. Do it the Tesla style not the Porsche Taycan style. Ha.

If the price is right, shaping up to be a decent option against the ID.4 and other non-Teslas.

peteharvey

spwolf, the bZ is selling for crazy prices in UK starting from 41,950 pounds.

Toyota bZ4X Review 2022 | carwow


This is often due to the limited supplies in rare earth metals like lithium and cobalt, and this will only get worse till a breakthrough in alternative battery chemistries arrive.

Mercedes Exec Doesn't Think EVs Will Get Cheaper Anytime Soon: Report (msn.com)

EZZ

How much is the Ioniq 5 and EV6 selling for? On paper, those are far better so the BZ4X should be cheaper.

peteharvey

I don't know much about UK market unlike spwolf.
However, it seems that Ioniq 5 starts at 30,800 pounds?
Seems that Kia EV6 starts at 41,895 poungs?

However, the Kia looks horrible IMO.
While the Ioniq 5 has a much nicer exterior than the Kia, but the simple horizontal dash looks cheap IMO.
I'd have to go with the Toyota bZ which looks better outside and inside.

EZZ

Design is a personal preference. The E-GMP platform has extremely nice features and the AWD version is pretty quick. The BZ4X interior doesn't really do it for me. Hoping the Lexus SUV is much better.

Motorola

Ioniq 5 literally costs the same (£41,945) for the 73 kWH battery version. EV6 is even cheaper at £40,895.

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/hyunda...pecs-confirmed
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/kia/ev...28-miles-range

Toyota clearly isn't trying to be the "value option" here.

EZZ

Let's see how well they do. The ioniq and eV6 are sold out for months especially in higher trims. I doubt I'll nab one in the next couple months.

peteharvey

The Ioniq 5's exterior looks decent, but do you think the Ioniq 5's interior will sell as well as bZ?

AMIRZA786

The answer to that is yes. Ioniq 5 is sold out probably for this year. It's a high demand vehicle, although the bZ's is not bad looking to me. Currently owning a 2020 Ioniq, the tech is very good, and that is also the appeal of the Ioniq 5 which is way better

Motorola

It's a moot point how well they sell since Toyota isn't even planning to sell that many BZ's. They only plan to sell 60,000 globally its first model year. Most of those will end up in Europe and China while what's left for the U.S. will be compliance car numbers like the Mazda MX-30.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/t...ce-182462.html

Even Subaru is only selling 10,000 Solterras globally, and they're all already booked.

https://www.torquenews.com/1084/suba...first-72-hours

Expect huge dealer markups like the RAV4 Prime, if you can even find one.

Toys4RJill

Ionic 5 is a cute looking hatchback. Really like the exterior. Interior..MEH. Weird stuff going on. Why is there no Hyundai badge on the steering wheel? The two display screen of the Ionic 5 already look ancient…Mercedes S class did that 9 years ago

‘’But back to bZ4x, it will be very well received (I’m not a fan of where the screen is, but EV have to do these strange things for attention)

peteharvey

Apparently, all EV's often sold out due to a limited supply of rare earth metals like lithium and cobalt.
They must make a huge breakthrough in alternative battery chemistries quickly...

Mercedes Exec Doesn't Think EVs Will Get Cheaper Anytime Soon: Report (msn.com)

peteharvey

Totally agree with you Jill, and that's what I tried to tell Motorola.