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Old 06-23-22, 02:50 PM
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Doug was more diplomatic that the Forx deserves. Good news for Toyota is they are making very few.
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Old 06-23-22, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
I'm talking light duty vehicles like the RAV.
That's the exact issue here. The EV is heavy....
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
So Toyota engineers didn't factor this in? Seems like a big F up to me
They f'ed it up on the 430. I'm not shocked it was overlooked again
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Originally Posted by Striker223
That's the exact issue here. The EV is heavy....
OK, well then the question is, why don't other EV's have this issue?
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Old 06-23-22, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
That's the exact issue here. The EV is heavy....
Highlander weighs more uses the same studs as Corolla Yaris Avalon etc.

Maybe it's a supplier thing there are at least 3 different stud part numbers I order and get 90942-02081 the others might be made in China or Mexico. I just bought a transmission filter at Toyota it's now made in Mexico aftermarket made in Taiwan.
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Old 06-23-22, 03:27 PM
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Doug made it clear this appeals to people that buy only Toyota and consider nothing else. But does that demographic even want electric vehicles?
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Old 06-23-22, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
OK, well then the question is, why don't other EV's have this issue?
Because they have correct specs and didn't just carry over parts
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Old 06-23-22, 03:52 PM
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Toyota was stubbornly against EVs and it shows. Looks like the old guard has a lot to learn about building a proper EV. Toyota has flipped from being a leader in ICE vehicles to the trailing laggard in the EV market. Never thought I’d be in a position where I’d rather buy a Ford over a Toyota.
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
Doug was more diplomatic that the Forx deserves.
That's cause he shot most of the review before he learned about the price. Once he did at the end, he was merciless.
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Old 06-23-22, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Motorola
That's cause he shot most of the review before he learned about the price. Once he did at the end, he was merciless.
He thought it would be high $30k. Oh well...
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Well that just tells me how serious Toyota really is about the bZ4x...not very
Clearly they aren't lol! I would never consider this for a second over a Tesla
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Old 06-23-22, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
I was hoping Toyota would at least be competitive with Tesla, clearly that's not the case
Yeah, I'm also hoping Tesla makes a better luxury car....they are badly behind the leaders again.
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AMIRZA786 and EZZ, exit this thread. your gloating, piling on, and crass posts are not appreciated, especially you AMIRZA786. one post or maybe two being critical would have been sufficient. here's some of it for the record, before i go delete them all.

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So what you are saying is someone F'ed up
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Let me sort of make a correction to my last post...at least the ****ing thing won't explode while you are driving it
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Lol. I think most EVs have higher torque specs on wheels. My Tesla has a required 129 ft lb on the wheels
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​​​​​​ Being behind and less reliable than a Nissan Leaf or Chevy Bolt is a pretty shameful place to be in...
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So Toyota engineers didn't factor this in? Seems like a big F up to me
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Maybe they thought it was Hydrogen powered
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The more I look at the bZ4x, the more apparent it is how far Toyota is behind on EV's.
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Well that just tells me how serious Toyota really is about the bZ4x...not very
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I was hoping Toyota would at least be competitive with Tesla, clearly that's not the case

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Old 09-14-22, 02:49 PM
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I saw a bZ4X today in the showroom of a Toyota dealer in Los Angeles. It was used, and had a sticker on it with a price of $73K. There was a yellow tag under the windshield wiper stating that the car was not for sale. I wonder if this was one that Toyota bought back.

The car was unlocked, so I was able to sit in it. The interior was pretty bland, with tons of fingerprints on the center console area. The fact that you look over, not through, the steering wheel to see the dash display seemed weird. I guess it was designed for use with the yoke that the Lexus version is going to offer.
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Old 09-14-22, 03:30 PM
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I think the car looks real good in person, definitely didn't expect that but I still think RAV4 Prime or any other PHEV CUV is a better buy than this.
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