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Old 08-06-21, 09:42 AM
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Hi gang, how goes it. I currently own a 2009 RX350. I've spent a bit on repairs this year, but she still drives smoothly and has no rust!
i was thinking about what the next car might be? I was thinking that i'd switch back to a sedan.
Even though the 3.5 engine has a few issues, it seems to be a reliable engine.
i thoight about the tree models in the header. In theory...are they pretty much the same car? Maybe the lexus and avalon might have a better fit and finish, but is all the rest the same? Would one be better that the other? Are they the same in terms of size/trunk space?
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They all have very different interiors and look pretty different, same or very similar underpinnings, none are all that sporty. I would just test drive them all and see what you like, the ES will be the nicest but you will pay the most for it.
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Originally Posted by fabchef
Hi gang, how goes it. I currently own a 2009 RX350. I've spent a bit on repairs this year, but she still drives smoothly and has no rust!
i was thinking about what the next car might be? I was thinking that i'd switch back to a sedan.
Even though the 3.5 engine has a few issues, it seems to be a reliable engine.
i thoight about the tree models in the header. In theory...are they pretty much the same car? Maybe the lexus and avalon might have a better fit and finish, but is all the rest the same? Would one be better that the other? Are they the same in terms of size/trunk space?
thanks
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Which model years are you referring to?
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Old 08-06-21, 11:19 AM
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Motorola, i would say 2009-2014. With my 2009 rx350, I experienced the oil line exploding, and as a safety measure i changed the rear vvt line to the newer all metal one. Two days ago i saw a small leak under the car, turned out to be the tranny cooler was leaking so got a new one. I've also changed out the spark plugs and coils. All in all, i like my car, it rides smoothly and has not a speck of rust on it (we have salted roads in winter time). I will keep it for a little longer (i have 211 000km on it).
are there better years of these model cars??
i chose these years as they had relatively less sensors on board and i prefer having a physical key to start the car, not push button start.
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2009 to 2012, the ES used the Camry platform. Starting in 2013, the ES is sharing the stretched Camry platform that the Avalon had been using.
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Mike, okay, so as pf 2013 the ES got a little longer...correct? I think though, that the ES's got the push button start system..no?
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ES had push button start from 07 onward.
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Sw17, thanks...good to know. Never been a fan of it. My wife has it in her bmw, bugs me.
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If you get used to it on a car you drive every day, you will love it. I would never go back to a car with a key, seeing that no cars have them anymore its a non issue...

All the cars and years you mentioned will have push button start
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Yeah, some newer cars are already offering finger detection start without even needing a key on your person. Having a car with a keyhole ignition nowadays is like having a car with a tape deck.
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Motorola...Hey! Don't diss the tape deck! Haha i really don't like these new systems. A good old proper key/keyfob is for me.
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Originally Posted by fabchef
Sw17, thanks...good to know. Never been a fan of it. My wife has it in her bmw, bugs me.
A big ol' key in your pocket and then in the dash is better, huh? Why does a push start bug you? It's so easy!
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Originally Posted by fabchef
Motorola...Hey! Don't diss the tape deck! Haha i really don't like these new systems. A good old proper key/keyfob is for me.
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I would keep your RX350 then lol
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I would just drive them... Us nerds ranting about the minor differences will do little to communicate the feeling of these cars in person. For whatever it's worth, I don't particularly love the years of ES you mentioned and would probably just stick with a Camry or Avalon. The Camry got a major redesign in 2012 that makes the interior far more modern than the prior generation. I had a 2010 Camry, which was a great car, but the interior is very dated now.
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Arentz, i'm an "old-school" kinda guy. I don't mind inserting a key fob to start car. It's more of the keep keyfob in pocket, that i'm not crazy about.
i had a 2002 camry before, and i have to say, i really miss it. I love the way it drove.
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