2022 Lexus LX600 (4th gen)
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I'm dead.. we just discussed this earlier in the thread. There is no LQ coming.
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Like a few of us here, I do this because US automotive media is terribly indifferent towards Lexus and often give out conflicting info. They play obtuse, missing obvious clues out there or outright focus on fluff. They are not very investigative.
Other than a quality YouTube vlog, forums are the best way to correct misinformation or spread the word about what to expect.
I learned the hard way back at the 2012 reveal of LF-LC Concept and got ignored when I showed them a leaked shot of 2014 IS, taken in December 2011. It was part of a private Lexus brand wide teaser, redacted from YouTube NAIAS feed. Since then, it is obvious there is a double standard when it comes to reporting on Japanese cars.
We really can't rely on US automotive media, that are only interested in freebies from Toyota and never care to exercise due diligence, when it comes to reporting on present and future Lexus products.
So if what myself and others are saying about LQ isn't being heard, well everyone is entitled to their perspective I guess and I only can keep it moving LOL.
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Funny enough when the IS500 was first teased, most people on this board (myself included) thought it would end up being for an LC500 F-Sport. Good to know that isn't off the table, though obviously no TTV8 lol.
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I somehow had confidence, it would be IS 500. LC 500 F Sport Performance just might be LCF-light. I just was so puzzled IS 500 was a V8, then it all started making sense at reveal. The V35A-FTS is a TNGA engine and not compatible with anything older in basis.
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Disagree. I drove this LX pictured below and was very unimpressed with the power (as well as the braking ability combined with extreme amounts of brake/nose dive). For nearly $100,000, it felt very slow and was an exercise in patience getting up to 60. I just watched a video review of a 21 LX and the reviewer basically mentioned the same thing about it being slow and underpowered. Getting back into my (now past) '18 GS350 F-Sport made it feel like a Tesla after driving the LX.
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And think of all the things the LX can do the GS can't do, its just not comparable.
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Yes, all cars are made for different purposes. Current LX is a dated body on frame vehicle built to handle extreme towing and off-roading, I get it.
Since you'd now like to compare the speed between the LX and GS, in real world driving around town, driving the GS350 back-to-back with the LX shows the GS is significantly faster than the LX. Don't know or care what the difference is on paper.
I would not compare an X5M to the GS. It is pretty ridiculous but you're the one who suggested it. Other $100,000 "flagship" SUVs drive more car-like and are less laborious to drive than the LX.
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Btw, I towed a fully loaded 6x12 trailer with my GS 2,000 miles across the US and it performed wonderfully.
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I compared the two cars as they're from the same automaker and I had them side by side ready & available to drive. My GS for the price drove and did things amazingly well. It set my expectations for how other Lexus vehicles drive very highly, especially ones that are nearly double the price. I was looking forward to sampling more of their models and drove an LX, which left me very disappointed. I'm sorry if this hurts your feelings.
You would be disappointed in any large SUV if you expected it to drive anything like your GS.
Other $100,000 "flagship" SUVs drive more car-like and are less laborious to drive than the LX.
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GS might not be able to tow or go off-road, but both vehicles can be driven down the road. That is what I was comparing. At the end of the day, cars drive. How cars drive is 100% comparable whether it's a Ford or a Ferrari. Does it always make sense to compare them? Probably not. But they can be compared 100%.
Btw, I towed a fully loaded 6x12 trailer with my GS 2,000 miles across the US and it performed wonderfully.![Big Grin](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Btw, I towed a fully loaded 6x12 trailer with my GS 2,000 miles across the US and it performed wonderfully.
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I compared the two cars as they're from the same automaker and I had them side by side ready & available to drive. My GS for the price drove and did things amazingly well. It set my expectations for how other Lexus vehicles drive very highly, especially ones that are nearly double the price. I was looking forward to sampling more of their models and drove an LX, which left me very disappointed. I'm sorry if this hurts your feelings.
Yes, all cars are made for different purposes. Current LX is a dated body on frame vehicle built to handle extreme towing and off-roading, I get it.
Since you'd now like to compare the speed between the LX and GS, in real world driving around town, driving the GS350 back-to-back with the LX shows the GS is significantly faster than the LX. Don't know or care what the difference is on paper. I would not compare an X5M to the GS. It is pretty ridiculous but you're the one who suggested it. Other $100,000 "flagship" SUVs drive more car-like and are less laborious to drive than the LX.
Yes, all cars are made for different purposes. Current LX is a dated body on frame vehicle built to handle extreme towing and off-roading, I get it.
Since you'd now like to compare the speed between the LX and GS, in real world driving around town, driving the GS350 back-to-back with the LX shows the GS is significantly faster than the LX. Don't know or care what the difference is on paper. I would not compare an X5M to the GS. It is pretty ridiculous but you're the one who suggested it. Other $100,000 "flagship" SUVs drive more car-like and are less laborious to drive than the LX.
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LX vs GS isn't a competition. I also wouldn't make it a habit of towing with a car, just me.
Yes, GS will be faster. LX isn't a slouch though, at least the ones with the 6 speed auto.
Yes, GS will be faster. LX isn't a slouch though, at least the ones with the 6 speed auto.
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More importantly, what is the new LX truly bringing to the table? The 4-Seater VIP version will rival the unibody Maybach GLS 600 and BMW X8. Will that be even be sold in the United States?
Secondly, for some reason Lexus will not be offering an Escalade ESV and Lincoln Navigator L alternative for the time being. At best, the LX will almost match the size of the QX80 and SWB American FSUVs.
I always thought those Sequoia-based LX claims, were stupid and unfounded rumors. I am not exempt from making mistakes and providing erroneous insight, but that was one I refused to touch, as it just wasn't realistic and was simply, American dealers beginning for an XL-sized LX.
Not confirmed fact.
TX is just not going to do it as a FWD basis unibody and is essentially a reskinned RX LWB, with practical roofline and third row.
Secondly, for some reason Lexus will not be offering an Escalade ESV and Lincoln Navigator L alternative for the time being. At best, the LX will almost match the size of the QX80 and SWB American FSUVs.
I always thought those Sequoia-based LX claims, were stupid and unfounded rumors. I am not exempt from making mistakes and providing erroneous insight, but that was one I refused to touch, as it just wasn't realistic and was simply, American dealers beginning for an XL-sized LX.
Not confirmed fact.
TX is just not going to do it as a FWD basis unibody and is essentially a reskinned RX LWB, with practical roofline and third row.
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More importantly, what is the new LX truly bringing to the table? The 4-Seater VIP version will rival the unibody Maybach GLS 600 and BMW X8. Will that be even be sold in the United States?
Secondly, for some reason Lexus will not be offering an Escalade ESV and Lincoln Navigator L alternative for the time being. At best, the LX will almost match the size of the QX80 and SWB American FSUVs.
I always thought those Sequoia-based LX claims, were stupid and unfounded rumors. I am not exempt from making mistakes and providing erroneous insight, but that was one I refused to touch, as it just wasn't realistic and was simply, American dealers beginning for an XL-sized LX.
Not confirmed fact.
TX is just not going to do it as a FWD basis unibody and is essentially a reskinned RX LWB, with practical roofline and third row.
Secondly, for some reason Lexus will not be offering an Escalade ESV and Lincoln Navigator L alternative for the time being. At best, the LX will almost match the size of the QX80 and SWB American FSUVs.
I always thought those Sequoia-based LX claims, were stupid and unfounded rumors. I am not exempt from making mistakes and providing erroneous insight, but that was one I refused to touch, as it just wasn't realistic and was simply, American dealers beginning for an XL-sized LX.
Not confirmed fact.
TX is just not going to do it as a FWD basis unibody and is essentially a reskinned RX LWB, with practical roofline and third row.
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