1111GS

How much did you win her by? 0.3s? Lol. Your LX and this new one are both nice utility SUVs for different purposes but that doesn't make 2.0T bad tech. I haven't tested E-Pace but test drove both Q7 and GLE350. Their 2.0T is certainly not what I had expected. Coming from a GX, I was like... 2.0? But yeah they both are lot quicker/more responsive than the GX with its V8. 8 gear when done right is a plus IMO. Why would fake leather be crap? I'm not a fan but some of them are really nice. And shouldn't more choices be better? Not that they stopped offering leathers. I do agree with you on stop/start. I hate that feature and am so glad I could turn it off.

SW17LS

Agree with all of those...

SW17LS

I love the 9 speed in my S Class, so I wouldn't agree there.

Also like my digital gauges.

My car has this and it improves fuel economy and I can't tell when its happening.

situman

Android auto and apple carplay. DRL. Back up cameras. Parking sensors....

AJT123

By quite a bit. I know they’re different vehicles but here new tech got annihilated by old tech. Look at the 5-60 and 50-70 passing time differences:

Jag:


LX:



Clearly shows how turbos have to wake up and that large displacement still works, even though different type vehicles. But she thought she was so bad, lol.

TangoRed

Not all "new tech" is created equal. The Mercedes-Benz GLS580, for example, has very similar 0-60mph and 5-60mph figures. Gearing, transmission tuning, and turbo tech matter.

C/D TEST RESULTS
Rollout, 1 ft: 0.3 sec
60 mph: 4.7 sec
100 mph: 11.7 sec
130 mph: 21.8 sec
Rolling start, 5–60 mph: 5.1 sec
¼-mile: 13.3 sec @ 106 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 130 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 166 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.90 g

SW17LS

The point is, people aren't driving around at WOT all the time. In normal driving, the TTV6 feels more responsive than the V8 even of WOT 0-60 doesn't reflect that.

I also question these people trying to "race other people". Somehow I have driven these vehicles for 25 years and nobody has ever tried to "race me". I question whether any of that really happens or if its in your head. I don't see someone looking at a big older LX and thinking "I wanna race that in my basic 4cyl Jaguar SUV".

swajames

AJT, that “race” was indeed entirely in your head. And countless different cars with a different engine are much faster than yours. And countless others with different engines are slower. But here you’re nursing a semi about beating a car with 246 hp…. Go you!

I’m sure countless people have thought they beat my F Type V8 S, when only they thought they were racing…

because after all, street racing is exclusively an idiot’s domain.

AJT123

If you think I'm delusional please hit ignore, sorta rude to basically call me a liar.. This chick was being totally cocky and I showed her what was up when the light turned green...trust me she was trying to race. She kept trying to catch me and beat me after that, all the way down this 4 lane road for a stretch. The point was, it was a "basic Jac 4 cylinder SUV" and she was acting like it was the full out performance version.

BTW I saw five 200 series SUVs out yesterday during about a 2 hour drive, you probably won't believe that either since you thought that was a fib too. smh.

Lol, it wasn't in my head. Again, rude. I explained the whole situation, not that I had to. This chick was giving it the beans. The only reason I even raced her at the light with her was because she was being cocky, driving really fast... and I guessed correctly it was a 2.0t once I rolled up to the light. Oof course there are faster cars than my LX are you kidding? But as I suspected, this Jag had all the looks but no actual go to it.

Whew, yeah up to 70 or so on a road with a 55MPH speed limit that was completely clear...call the cops right now. You never raced your actual fast Jag? Again, smh.

Lol I NEVER race or even drive fast, like EVER.

swajames

AJT, you're taking a little flak mainly because the bar was set a bit low with that particular sparring partner. But yes, you are right, we've all done it at one point or another.

AJT123

Fair enough, part of it was because I was talking about how a 2.0t isn't good tech and then that happened.

That Jag looked good, really good. But all show and no go which sucks.

In any case I don't want this thread shut down from arguing.

EZZ

Thats one 2L turbo that you played with. Go play with an AMG 45S with a little 2L turbo and see how you do. Pretty much embarrass any LX at any speed.

AJT123

I'm aware of that. 2.0L turbos still suck, though. How glorious would AMG engines be if no CAFE? That's the real question.

EZZ

For a small car, having a 2L turbo thats tuned would be a better driving experience as they tend to be more nimble, have better fuel economy, and better packaging than having a big honking v8 stuffed in. The answer isn't always V8.

AJT123

Lol I guess, I'd rather have the IS500 out of that class.