2022 Lexus LX600 (4th gen)
#1081
#1084
I was a long time owner of several Lexus LS Sedans. I was very disappointed with the new LS500 when it came it. By the time it did come out (it took way too long to come out) I bought a 2017 Mercedes S Class and i'm glad I did. I've been driving S-Classes ever since and have no desire to return to the Lexus LS. Being a long time LX owner as well, (I had a 2010 and now have a 2017) I was greatly disappointed with the new LX 600 I saw at the L.A. Auto Show. I only got to sit in the F-Sport version, but overall it was very disappointing. While my LX570 is very solid, reliable and very comfortable, it's handling is not great, its acceleration abysmal and fuel economy is terrible. After 15 years, I expected more from this new LX. I will wait until I get a chance to drive it, but as it stands now, it looks like I won't be a Lexus owner for much longer. On a side note, Lexus vehicles were always reliable. The competition has caught up. Maybe it's not quite at the level of Lexus, but it's not far off. Not enough of a difference to be much of a factor any more.
#1085
I watched Doug Demuro's review and found it quite insightful. He is a little (or a lot) over animated but overall he pointed out things that I want to know as a prospective buyer. I would never want the Luxury version but it's amazing at this price point that they wouldn't have wireless chargers in the front (even though I don't care for wireless charging) or powered sunshades in the back. Even my old 2008 LS600hL had powered sunshades. The black plastic on the lower rear bumper and I believe the running boards is also a questionable decision at this price point.
#1086
I'm not a big fan of wireless charger but it's certainly convenient (when it does not over heat and shut down your phone ) What I find more practical is you can use your phone as a key when placed there. Lexus seems to take their time to implement a lot of those that are already in German cars. As for reliability, I still think they are more superior than the German's. If I buy a full size SUV, it would be secondary and I would buy this new LX over German's full size.
#1087
I cant believe they removed the 3rd row from the base model. Just imagine how many more units they will sell to people that dont want to pay another 9k to get to the premium for the 3rd row.
#1088
Car and Driver review. Some snippets of my choosing below. Full article can be found here.
A dual-screen infotainment system reserves audio, navigation, and (wireless) smartphone-mirroring functions for the 12.3-inch upper screen, with secondary HVAC, situational, and off-road controls reserved for the lower 7.0-inch display. The most often-used climate adjustments are made via physical controls. The result is one of the cleaner Lexus interfaces in recent memory. If only the Start button wasn't so high up on the main infotainment bezel, where it's easy to mistake for the smaller, higher, and slightly out-of-reach volume ****—and the stereo's equalizer controls weren't so deeply buried in the menus.
We're also fans of the twin-turbo 3.4-liter V-6 and its 409 horsepower and 479 pound-feet of torque, which amounts to 26 more ponies and 76 more pound-feet than the 5.7-liter V-8 it replaces. This engine pulls hard but remains smooth, with none of the old powertrain's occasional initial lurching, thanks to a combination of peak torque that arrives 1600 rpm sooner and more progressive throttle tip-in. The 60-mph run in our loaded Ultra Luxury took us just 6.1 seconds, which is exactly one second quicker than the last LX570 we tested.
Gearchanges are smooth, and even though this is a 10-speed, there's no excess gear shuffling. Passing maneuvers are easier to execute thanks to top-gear 30-to-50- and 50-to-70-mph acceleration times of 3.4 and 4.4 seconds, which are some 15 percent quicker than before. Shift paddles are there should you desire to choose your gear, but that hardly seems necessary unless you're selecting the optimal ratio off-road in low range. This powertrain is also far more economical, with EPA estimates of 19 mpg combined, 17 city, and 22 highway, easily exceeding the outgoing setup's dismal 14 mpg combined. It can also pull a fair bit, with a new higher tow rating of 8000 pounds.
Still, we can fully see why Lexus expects the lower-spec Premium ($96,345) to be the volume seller. That price is barely $3000 more than the outgoing three-row LX570, and despite the lack of the height-control option, it's a better vehicle in numerous ways. Its interior includes most of the essentials and looks fantastic, and it rides on 20-inch wheels and adaptive dampers. Our favorite option here might be the $1295 Appearance package (also available on the Luxury), which blacks out the exterior trim and that admittedly massive front grille. It's also a prerequisite for the no-cost 18-inch wheel-and-tire package, which the overlanders and Land Cruiser fanboys among us will surely appreciate. We managed some quality time in this configuration, and the extra sidewall absolutely proved its worth on local Forest Service dirt roads.
Whether the Premium with 18-inch wheels will be enough to appease the Land Cruiser faithful remains to be seen. Regardless, this kind of variety never existed in the LX lineup before the 2022 Lexus LX600 arrived. The new LX600 is clearly eons better and far less one-dimensional than the one it replaces, and that certainly will be enough for most buyers.
Whether the Premium with 18-inch wheels will be enough to appease the Land Cruiser faithful remains to be seen. Regardless, this kind of variety never existed in the LX lineup before the 2022 Lexus LX600 arrived. The new LX600 is clearly eons better and far less one-dimensional than the one it replaces, and that certainly will be enough for most buyers.
#1090
Cars are often too powerful to be fun, especially on normal street roads. I mean its nice that you have 1 billion gajillion HP, but that also means you reach legal speeds (or slightly above it) too soon. Part of the joy of driving a slower car, like my GX, is being able to rev it out longer, hear the engine and just feel the car come alive. I think 6.1s to 60 is fast enough. I mean realistically how fast do you really want to go in a 6000lb+ behemoth?
#1091
Cars are often too powerful to be fun, especially on normal street roads. I mean its nice that you have 1 billion gajillion HP, but that also means you reach legal speeds (or slightly above it) too soon. Part of the joy of driving a slower car, like my GX, is being able to rev it out longer, hear the engine and just feel the car come alive. I think 6.1s to 60 is fast enough. I mean realistically how fast do you really want to go in a 6000lb+ behemoth?
#1092
Having gotten used to a TT engine, I have no desire to go back to a NA engine, V8 or not.
#1093
I'm not anti V8 at all, quite the opposite. But, reality is reality and this TTV6 does feel peppier and more responsive than the old V8. Power band is accessible much lower and it makes the car feel faster. Has nothing to do with 0-60 time.
Having gotten used to a TT engine, I have no desire to go back to a NA engine, V8 or not.
Having gotten used to a TT engine, I have no desire to go back to a NA engine, V8 or not.
#1095
the v6 feel quicker but they lack the smoothnes of the v8; especially in higher speeds/revs. I am just talking about lexus
I'm not anti V8 at all, quite the opposite. But, reality is reality and this TTV6 does feel peppier and more responsive than the old V8. Power band is accessible much lower and it makes the car feel faster. Has nothing to do with 0-60 time.
Having gotten used to a TT engine, I have no desire to go back to a NA engine, V8 or not.
Having gotten used to a TT engine, I have no desire to go back to a NA engine, V8 or not.