2024 Lexus GX 550
03-20-23 | 06:58 PM
#151
not a question of like, it's facing reality and paying the extra if you want a v8. that's exactly what i did with the lc500 because i could see a car like that wasn't likely to be around much longer.
your implication is their satisfaction is because it has a v8. i think there's satisfaction DESPITE it having a slow, thirsty (but very reliable) v8. people get GX's because they're safe, reliable, comfortable, and not as pricy as a benz. also, the BOF structure means they ride higher and many people feel safer with that up high position.
people as in, very few people, actually. yes, you, me, and other enthusiasts, sure. heck, there's a reason the ford still makes and sells the mustang gt with an optional v8... to enthusiasts! but i bet the mustangs with the 4 cylinder ecoboost sells in WAY higher numbers.
that's for trucks, big suv's, corvette, and probably camaro too, but a billion isn't what it used to be. 
and gm has also committed THIRTY FIVE billion to ev's... https://www.drive.com.au/news/genera...ion-v8-engine/
agreed, they have to navigate regulation and consumer trends while trying to innovate and differentiate as well. it ain't easy.
as far as not liking the atmosphere we live in, they say 'stress is a resistance to reality', and it's a lot less stressful to embrace and accept what is. nothing wrong with having your awesome lx and benz coupe, as i've said, i got the old school lc500 for similar reasons. being a nerd, it needed to have 'enough' tech and features for me, and it does which is why i got it. but next vehicle to replace my suv will likely be electric. i hate hybrids and am ready to give an ev a go, unless i end up just buying the suv out of the lease, which would be by far the cheapest option.
No, you're wrong...again. I said they sell 20-30k GXs a year all with thirsty V8s, the take and satisfaction rate with those are off the charts.
And for the record, "people DO still want V8s." Is or is not your S-Class powered by 8 cylinders that you paid more for?
GM just invested nearly a billion into V-8s, they're not going anywhere.
and gm has also committed THIRTY FIVE billion to ev's... https://www.drive.com.au/news/genera...ion-v8-engine/
Also I never said car makers are wrong, obviously I understand the atmosphere we are living in today. I just don't like it. We couldn't go back if we tried, it would be impossible. I'm well aware of that.
as far as not liking the atmosphere we live in, they say 'stress is a resistance to reality', and it's a lot less stressful to embrace and accept what is. nothing wrong with having your awesome lx and benz coupe, as i've said, i got the old school lc500 for similar reasons. being a nerd, it needed to have 'enough' tech and features for me, and it does which is why i got it. but next vehicle to replace my suv will likely be electric. i hate hybrids and am ready to give an ev a go, unless i end up just buying the suv out of the lease, which would be by far the cheapest option.
03-21-23 | 09:59 AM
#153
Moderator
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,995
Likes: 98
From: US
GX Sales:
GLE Sales:
Of course there is still a market for a vehicle like the GX, but its not a huge market, its a niche market. Going to a 6 cyl will not hurt GX sales.
Like it or not, people less and less want V8s. The lack of availability is because of lack of demand, manufacturers build what sells. If everybody wanted V8s, they would build the V8s. Why would dealer buyers stock what people don't want?
03-21-23 | 10:01 AM
#155
Moderator
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,995
Likes: 98
From: US
You are right on both counts. However, they do share one thing in common - phenomenal freeway cruiser.
03-21-23 | 10:07 AM
#157
Lexus Champion
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 14,598
Likes: 2,304
From: California
Why did you leave out X5? Lol. Did you know they sold a whooping 82,373 in 2022? If the German can do what they can with their I-6 TT, I don't know why Lexus can't achieve with their V6 TT. Maybe this new GX will bring in some nice fresh air. IMO, people buy 50i or M because they are more expensive and give them the exclusivity. I-6TT is plenty of everything one needs.
Last edited by AMIRZA786; 03-21-23 at 10:14 AM.
03-21-23 | 10:09 AM
#158
yes, they all take kids to soccer practice and pick up coffee at the starbucks drive through.
03-21-23 | 10:11 AM
#159
Lexus Fanatic
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 31,686
Likes: 73
From: ON/NY
Just a completely different vehicle. Lexus is in a very unique space with 4R, GX and LX.
This is untrue.
This is untrue.
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 03-21-23 at 10:14 AM.
03-21-23 | 10:19 AM
#160
Lexus Fanatic
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 58,120
Likes: 2,786
From: Maryland
People definately do cross shop the GX, X5 and GLE. All 3 are the midsized SUVs from Lexus, Mercedes and BMW and people do cross shop them. Lots of GX buyers buy it because its a Lexus midsized SUV and not specifically for its BOF design.
03-21-23 | 10:22 AM
#161
Super Moderator
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 8,145
Likes: 333
From: IL
Were you meaning to refer to the 50e, which used to be called the 45e? It is indeed more efficient than its gas-only equivalent, but still requires maintenance.
03-21-23 | 10:27 AM
#162
Lexus Champion
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 14,598
Likes: 2,304
From: California
I'm very confused. The 50i (renamed 60i for MY2024) IS an X5, it's one of two versions with a TTV8, the other being the M that @1111GS also mentioned. So no, it is not more efficient than the base 40i, and being a BMW V8, skipping out on maintenance is a horrendously bad idea.
Were you meaning to refer to the 50e, which used to be called the 45e? It is indeed more efficient than its gas-only equivalent, but still requires maintenance.
Were you meaning to refer to the 50e, which used to be called the 45e? It is indeed more efficient than its gas-only equivalent, but still requires maintenance.
@1111GS forget what I said earlier 
Last edited by AMIRZA786; 03-21-23 at 10:44 AM.
03-21-23 | 10:34 AM
#163
Super Moderator
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 8,145
Likes: 333
From: IL
LOL my apologies, I mixed up the i5 EV for the 50i! He test drove the X5 than the i5 and decided on the i5. LOL I don't know my BMW's @1111GS forget what I said earlier
@1111GS forget what I said earlier 
The i5 was just teased for the first time this week, so I don't think he's bought one yet. These are very different vehicles though, sedan vs. SUV, so not really comparable. Regardless, we're all good.
03-21-23 | 10:37 AM
#165
Moderator
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,995
Likes: 98
From: US
LOL my apologies, I mixed up the i5 EV for the 50i! He test drove the X5 than the i5 and decided on the i5. LOL I don't know my BMW's @1111GS forget what I said earlier
@1111GS forget what I said earlier I'm very confused. The 50i (renamed 60i for MY2024) IS an X5, it's one of two versions with a TTV8, the other being the M that @1111GS also mentioned. So no, it is not more efficient than the base 40i, and being a BMW V8, skipping out on maintenance is a horrendously bad idea.
Were you meaning to refer to the 50e, which used to be called the 45e? It is indeed more efficient than its gas-only equivalent, but still requires maintenance.
Were you meaning to refer to the 50e, which used to be called the 45e? It is indeed more efficient than its gas-only equivalent, but still requires maintenance.