2022 Mazda CX-5
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I don't know how they are a Subaru competitor. IMO, Mazda has no idea what they are or want to be. If they go cheaper, they will be get killed by Toyota. The best thing they having going for them is that Toyota is backing them somewhat.
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As an overall brand, sure. But you don't think there are any Mazda models (including the CX-5) that compete with Subaru models?
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The Ascent and CX-9 are probably loose-competitors.....as are the BRZ/Miata and CX-5/Forester. I don't think there is any American-market Mazda product that competes with the Outback.
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I would call the Ascent and CX-9 direct competitors - 3 row family crossovers with a turbo 4 engine.
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I think Mazda had their niche when they were “Zoom Zoom”. That is what I think when I think of Mazda. Not their new slogan of “Feel Alive” or their direction. In Canada they even offer unlimited km warranty…been like there for years. I do acknowledge that there are folks on here who really like their Mazda’s…and they do well in drivers tests etc etc.
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I think Mazda had their niche when they were “Zoom Zoom”. That is what I think when I think of Mazda. Not their new slogan of “Feel Alive” or their direction. In Canada they even offer unlimited km warranty…been like there for years. I do acknowledge that there are folks on here who really like their Mazda’s…and they do well in drivers tests etc etc.
If you haven't driven a current CX-5 Signature with the 2.5 turbo, I suggest you test drive one. I almost had to be dragged into the dealership back when we bought our 2019. Looks aside, I feel the 2022 is building on what was already a great product at a great price. I just hope they don't shoot themselves in the foot by only offering AWD in the states. This should have no impact in areas like mine, where it would almost be impossible to find a FWD model. But, someone living down south, like Florida, would have little interest in a base model with AWD.
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In reality, the CX5 competes with all the small SUVs, CRV, Rav4, Tuscon, Subaru Forester. Price points are all very similar. Mazda just does a good job of making the entry feel premium. My friend who I helped lease two of them, thats 100% why she has a CX-5. it feels like it competes with an RDX or a Lexus NX or something like that but its priced more like a Rav4 or CRV which is really what she wants to spend.
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Some people still think they're owned by Ford, and that's what comes to mind when they hear Mazda. Zoom-Zoom had it's day, but I agree "Feel Alive" does not really resonate well with most people. Hopefully, they'll come out with a new slogan that will better align with their upmarket desires.
If you haven't driven a current CX-5 Signature with the 2.5 turbo, I suggest you test drive one. I almost had to be dragged into the dealership back when we bought our 2019. Looks aside, I feel the 2022 is building on what was already a great product at a great price. I just hope they don't shoot themselves in the foot by only offering AWD in the states. This should have no impact in areas like mine, where it would almost be impossible to find a FWD model. But, someone living down south, like Florida, would have little interest in a base model with AWD.
If you haven't driven a current CX-5 Signature with the 2.5 turbo, I suggest you test drive one. I almost had to be dragged into the dealership back when we bought our 2019. Looks aside, I feel the 2022 is building on what was already a great product at a great price. I just hope they don't shoot themselves in the foot by only offering AWD in the states. This should have no impact in areas like mine, where it would almost be impossible to find a FWD model. But, someone living down south, like Florida, would have little interest in a base model with AWD.
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FWD customers will still buy the AWD vehicles.
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I have a Hyundai Santa Fe, and there's lots of people in that forum that cross-shop the Outback. I think more people than you realize consider an Outback when looking at 2-row cross overs.
I would call the Ascent and CX-9 direct competitors - 3 row family crossovers with a turbo 4 engine.
I would call the Ascent and CX-9 direct competitors - 3 row family crossovers with a turbo 4 engine.