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Old 09-22-21, 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
I don't remember the story, but will take your word for it.


I remember sampling a Diamante. Very impressive. Especially with a little tweaking, it would have made an excellent luxury-grade sedan for Mitsu.
It was a very long winded post of mine, made worse by several typos (= unreadable). Anyway, yeah it was very far along, after 4 plus years invested. Almost like Toyota deciding in late 1988, to pull the plug on Lexus (almost had to rename the brand; Lexis-Nexis suit) and instead becoming a medium for GM to develop/sell FWD cars, like Mazda did for Ford. (oops, GEO anyone?). And chugging along with Lexus-like models, but no premium badge nor requisite showroom. That is Mazda today, on a smaller scale of course.

The first generation Diamante was a luxury car, as in 1991, Mitsubishi marketed it alongside the 3000GT and redesigned Montero SR as their "range of luxury" automobiles.


It worked just fine too for a few years, as people paid high prices for the discount Land Cruiser and AWD monster in the 3000GT. Yen fluctuations put a damper on that though with time. They are as good as dead, as they couldn't consistently follow them up with worthwhile products.

Mazda and this rumored RWD MX-6 4-door replacement for Mazda6 need to come with it or forget about it. CX-50 also has to look better than the CX-5 and while championing RWD driving dynamics, also most boast more versatility. The next CX-9 or its replacement, has already been designed by Mazda as of last March, but is 2024 from my knowledge. They recently gave it a mid-cycle faceift for 2021MY, after 4 years being on sale since mid-2016.

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http://en.media.mazda.ca/2021-10-06-...ting-Next-Year

In the meantime, the Mazda CX-5, which has retained constant popularity since its launch in 2012, will see its design evolve and its model lineup enhanced through continuous product improvement. Furthermore, introducing the latest safety technologies and connectivity features, we will increase the appeal of the vehicle and give it the space to continue growing as part of our crossover SUV lineup.
I'm being optimistic, but this kind of sounds like we'll get one more generation (or at least another facelift) of CX-5 before they pull the plug.
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Old 10-10-21, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sm1ke
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I'm being optimistic, but this kind of sounds like we'll get one more generation (or at least another facelift) of CX-5 before they pull the plug.
Do you,think that some of these new Mazda’s in the pipeline may be shared with a Toyota?
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They will do CX-50/60/70/80/90 that's wierd. CX-50 will be US thing while CX-60 will be EU thing, does that imply 60 will be bigger than 50 or badging has nothing to do with sizing? EU also gets 80 which might be smaller than 90 but bigger than 70. If they actually make four different models for two markets I will be very surprised.
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It's interesting that the CX50 won't be on the new longitudinal platform as the original rumors suggested, it's just the same as the one on the current CX30. Seeing that it's the only vehicle of all the ones we've seen in their press release that has even been spotted being tested, their claims of a massive product rush of CX60-90 by 2023 come across as being very dubious, especially given Mazda's track records of delays.

This also kills any theory of the new platform being used by Lexus because it's too large for vehicles like the IS, and Lexus already has its own large RWD platform in the LS500/Mirai.

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Old 10-11-21, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Motorola
It's interesting that the CX50 won't be on the new longitudinal platform as the original rumors suggested, it's just the same as the one on the current CX30. Seeing that it's the only vehicle of all the ones we've seen in their press release that has even been spotted being tested, their claims of a massive product rush of CX60-90 by 2023 come across as being very dubious, especially given Mazda's track records of delays.

This also kills any theory of the new platform being used by Lexus because it's too large for vehicles like the IS, and Lexus already has its own large RWD platform in the LS500/Mirai.
Are we 100% sure that the images were CX-50 and not CX-70? From what I could comprehend, and I could be off by a mile, CX-60 will be the smallest RWD CUV in the bunch which somehow makes sense to sell in Europe and Japan due to generally higher prices but they will keep current platfomr CX-5(0) for US for the exact same reason - general pricing of vehicles in US. And where does that leave China? Chine will have it's own models once again apparently.

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Originally Posted by Motorola
This also kills any theory of the new platform being used by Lexus because it's too large for vehicles like the IS, and Lexus already has its own large RWD platform in the LS500/Mirai.
Unless, of course, the IS moves up in size as the rest of it's competition has while it stayed the same since 2014. Current CX-9 has a wheelbase of 115" while the CX-5 is at 106". If the CX-70 is somewhere between that (and potential sedan), wouldn't be too surprised to see IS moved up in size.

On other hand, glad to hear there's final official confirmation of the i6 coming from Mazda in their release.
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Originally Posted by Vladi
Are we 100% sure that the images were CX-50 and not CX-70?
The camo prototype is the CX50 because it's scheduled to come out first. If the other models were to come out soon we would already see them being tested as well.
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Also, from their most recent global press release, I question whether Mazda actually has any plans for a replacement to the 6. This would have been the perfect opportunity to introduce it considering they announced their entire future lineup here using the new platform, and yet we get absolutely nothing.

https://newsroom.mazda.com/en/public...0/211007a.html

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Originally Posted by Motorola
It's interesting that the CX50 won't be on the new longitudinal platform as the original rumors suggested, it's just the same as the one on the current CX30. Seeing that it's the only vehicle of all the ones we've seen in their press release that has even been spotted being tested, their claims of a massive product rush of CX60-90 by 2023 come across as being very dubious, especially given Mazda's track records of delays.

This also kills any theory of the new platform being used by Lexus because it's too large for vehicles like the IS, and Lexus already has its own large RWD platform in the LS500/Mirai.
Why would Toyota invest in Mazda and then accept for an answer that they would never get anything out of it?
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