2023 Toyota Sequoia
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I'm torn on this. The domestic trucks are clearly already ahead and in typical Toyota fashion it's a huge revision expected to last a long time. Issue I see is unlike the last gen it isn't starting massively ahead of its competitors.
I don't have much reason to want one since I only have 47k miles on mine. On the other hand the interior is far nicer......
Engine totally kills it though. I have no desire for a 6
I don't have much reason to want one since I only have 47k miles on mine. On the other hand the interior is far nicer......
Engine totally kills it though. I have no desire for a 6
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I'm torn on this. The domestic trucks are clearly already ahead and in typical Toyota fashion it's a huge revision expected to last a long time. Issue I see is unlike the last gen it isn't starting massively ahead of its competitors.
I don't have much reason to want one since I only have 47k miles on mine. On the other hand the interior is far nicer......
Engine totally kills it though. I have no desire for a 6
I don't have much reason to want one since I only have 47k miles on mine. On the other hand the interior is far nicer......
Engine totally kills it though. I have no desire for a 6
This Sequoyah would be off my list simply bc of no Auto 4WD. Guarantee there will be plenty of wrecks with these when the roads get slick in northern areas, etc .etc. Drivers are going to assume something is there that isn't and slide off the road.
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It does suck the V8 is gone but at least the new V6 is generally well regarded, so far at least. That said, forget it. I'm trying to find an exhaust for my 5.7 that would fit and not compromise any off road ability that only burbles when you get on it. I don't care about gas mileage.
This Sequoyah would be off my list simply bc of no Auto 4WD. Guarantee there will be plenty of wrecks with these when the roads get slick in northern areas, etc .etc. Drivers are going to assume something is there that isn't and slide off the road.
This Sequoyah would be off my list simply bc of no Auto 4WD. Guarantee there will be plenty of wrecks with these when the roads get slick in northern areas, etc .etc. Drivers are going to assume something is there that isn't and slide off the road.
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Exactly my thoughts - the cargo space and 3rd row destroy it for me, unfortunately.
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Absolutely that would happen. My wife would never put it in 4WD.
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Does that happen with Tundras in 2WD? I’ve never seen accidents on the forums for that. Traction control would kick in. If someone thinks they’re in 4WD, despite not putting it in 4WD and the controls in 2WD, that’s not the fault of the car. I’ve never been so close to dropping CL as I am tonight Maybe I’m just out of patience for the day.
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Yeah......it's amazing sometimes. There is literally a label facing you on the sun visor on Toyotas that CLEARLY outlines how the system works but people just don't read.
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we had a massive hurricane/ rainstorm with flash floods warning here yesterday night, my wife took the LX for her work conference in NJ few days ago and was on her way back. Long story short it was nasty yesterday and she came home in the LX stating that rain was crazy but she had no issues and how much she appreciated how this car works in bad weather. I know for a fact she only knows three things in the car, the start button and gas and brake, she won't be engaging the 4wd for the new sequoia and will probably think its the same as LX (full time 4wd) and that won't be a. good scenario.
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Does that happen with Tundras in 2WD? I’ve never seen accidents on the forums for that. Traction control would kick in. If someone thinks they’re in 4WD, despite not putting it in 4WD and the controls in 2WD, that’s not the fault of the car. I’ve never been so close to dropping CL as I am tonight Maybe I’m just out of patience for the day.
If I were to buy a Sequoia, my wife would primarily drive it. Now, I would just put it in 4WD if there was a heavy rain or it started to snow or it was icy...she would never think to do that...she just gets in a car and drives it. I use engine braking down a long grade, she's just going to use the brakes. So, essentially my wife would always be driving a RWD vehicle regardless of the conditions, and I'm not comfortable with that.
Switching from 2WD to 4WD manually requires a focus and interest out of using the capabilities of the vehicle to its fullest in varying road conditions that she does not possess. If it had a 2WD, 4WD AUTO or 4WD Low switch option, I would just put it in 4WD AUTO and tell her "never change this" and she never would, she would have no interest in doing so. Even if she did put it in 4WD, she would never change it back to 2WD when it was time to do that, nor would she recognize, understand or care when the conditions were so that it needed to go back into 2WD.
If her auto headlights failed...she would drive around in the dark lol. LOTS of people are like her...look at the identical descriptions here!
So for me this setup would be no problem, but for a vehicle that my wife drives primarily this one lack of function totally disqualifies it from my garage. When I had my RWD sedans as an example, I would never let her drive one of them in the snow...because she doesn't have the experience or skills I have driving a vehicle like that in the snow, nor does she have any interest in learning them. One of the big points of buying a vehicle like this for my family is knowing that they are always in the safest vehicle and the most capable vehicle, and not having AUTO 4WD or full time 4WD and knowing that she would never think to change the drive mode diminishes that greatly.
Last edited by SW17LS; 06-09-22 at 07:21 AM.
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No auto 4WD is just an unforgivable omission in something this nice and expensive.
we had a massive hurricane/ rainstorm with flash floods warning here yesterday night, my wife took the LX for her work conference in NJ few days ago and was on her way back. Long story short it was nasty yesterday and she came home in the LX stating that rain was crazy but she had no issues and how much she appreciated how this car works in bad weather. I know for a fact she only knows three things in the car, the start button and gas and brake, she won't be engaging the 4wd for the new sequoia and will probably think its the same as LX (full time 4wd) and that won't be a. good scenario.
Kinda sad bc we were all hopeful this would take Land Cruiser's place unofficially, I like it but it's not a standout in any way. No way would I buy this over an equivalent 80K GMC.