Toys4RJill

There is tall gearing. And short gearing. The outgoing and Tundra and Sequoia are very short 4:30 axles. Therefore very inefficient on gas burning...but you have excellent performance in almost every circumstance. The 4:30 is very very rare in the segment as it is standard. Traditionally, this is what Toyota has historically offered (4;10/4:30) in their trucks and SUVs from the 80s to mid 2010s. Compare to a modern Tahoe and can get a tall gear 3:23 which adds to fuel efficiency. Your LX is 3:73 or 3:91 but they changed it to a 3:30 rear axle at some point. Today, the new Tundra, Sequoia and LX are all the same with a 3:30 or somewhere near that…add some 10 speeds in there and the performance is no much better. You just save fuel and the ride feels a little more sluggish..but performance is about the same….which is what happened when they updated the LX570.

FJ was updated the 4.0 for more hp in the FJ. but they never bothered to update the Tacoma at the same time

Bringing it back to Sequoia. The new MPG are indeed terrific. So is the styling. But there are some compromises Toyota seems to have gone with.

4TehNguyen

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all the old V8 needed was an 8 speed and less aggressive rear end like a 3.21 or 3.92 for towing and the mpg wouldve dramatically improved. A 6 speed with that 4.3 rear end was RIP for mpg

GFerg

Meh... 16/22 vs 19/22 isn't that impressive to me. It's an improvement and that's cool (the highway literally isn't an improvement though). But doesn't really make me want to buy it for the gas savings. There are other reasons why, but the hybrid powertrain, to me isn't one of them.

AJT123

But it would be slower, forget that. The 8 speed auto LX is almost a second slower 0-60 than the 6spd ones. There’s a pretty big difference between 6.5 and 7.3 seconds. Not walking away, running away.

The Tundras and Sequoyahs kept the 6 speed through the run and were always quick.

4TehNguyen

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the hybrid powertrain isnt even that good in the tundra/sequioa because of the small battery. F150 Powerboost is 24/24, watch when they do it to the Expedition.

Toys4RJill

Wow. Toyota Hybrid Max is so far behind.




Can’t believe Toyota lacks the resources, tech or know/how to match the Ford V8

situman

Those Ford ratings seem optimistic.

FrankReynoldsCPA

I can do pretty close to those numbers in mine with a 6 speed. The 18+ with 10 speeds are definitely more efficient and can do this no problem.

FrankReynoldsCPA

Just a question Jill....do you off-road?

bitkahuna

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ha, if you consider a drive to the movie theater off-roading.

Toys4RJill

no need to off road to enjoy the benefits of full time 4WD. My SUVs have gone off the beaten path….(but not rock crawling)



SLegacy99

I'd like to see a version with less power that achieves better mileage. This idea that every buyer needs 400+ HP in a giant SUV is so out of date. Though I understand why Toyota would release a potent model at launch.

Fizzboy7

I'm with you. The horsepower number race these days is ridiculous. But at least for towing, I can give them that.

4TehNguyen

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the decision for full time AWD is odd because that penalizes mileage. 4WD auto shouldve been a strong business case to boost the mpg of the sequoia

Toys4RJill

The First gen Sequoia and 2nd gen Sequoia were multi mode 4WD. 2WD, full time 4WD,, 4WD Center diff locked hi and 4WD locked low (all bundled in the same transfer). Same with 4Runner V6 03-09. Toyota could have just used the same transfer case. Someone who has a 22 Sequoia can leave the transfer case in full time 4WD and never change it and they have the same thing as Land Cruiser/4R. New 2023 Sequoia brings buyers back to a time of the 1980s

I will say, beautiful SUV…but terrible execution