2023 Toyota Sequoia
03-20-23, 05:59 PM
#616
Lexus Fanatic
No doubt, but it makes sense for the loaded Sequoia to be priced there. The markup on that model is absolutely absurd, especially when you can buy a Tahoe for MSRP. Anybody who would pay $100,000 for that is insane.
03-20-23, 06:04 PM
#617
Lexus Fanatic
Not really talking about ADMs.
03-20-23, 06:08 PM
#618
Lexus Fanatic
I don't think buyers of these vehicles care about fuel economy. I wouldn't...if I cared I wouldn't buy a vehicle like that.
03-20-23, 06:09 PM
#619
Lexus Fanatic
03-20-23, 06:10 PM
#620
Lexus Fanatic
i dunno, people bought the old Sequoia and it was so ancient.
I saw a new Sequoua the other day owned by a livery company, which really surprised me. Cramped and small inside and way overpriced, doesn't make much sense for that use
I saw a new Sequoua the other day owned by a livery company, which really surprised me. Cramped and small inside and way overpriced, doesn't make much sense for that use
03-20-23, 06:14 PM
#622
Lexus Fanatic
‘That wasn’t terrible. The design was very very good. IRS, hydraulic AVS. Multi mode 4WD with full time permanent 4WD. Amazing rear seat space. Roll Down rear window. A powerful effortless V8. It just missed on the interior quality and the perception.
It didn’t actually sell that well. Very poorly compared to the first gen
You know I’m a Toyota faithful?
It didn’t actually sell that well. Very poorly compared to the first gen
You know I’m a Toyota faithful?
03-20-23, 06:40 PM
#623
‘That wasn’t terrible. The design was very very good. IRS, hydraulic AVS. Multi mode 4WD with full time permanent 4WD. Amazing rear seat space. Roll Down rear window. A powerful effortless V8. It just missed on the interior quality and the perception.
It didn’t actually sell that well. Very poorly compared to the first gen
You know I’m a Toyota faithful?
It didn’t actually sell that well. Very poorly compared to the first gen
You know I’m a Toyota faithful?
Gas mileage isn't even all that different. Real world talking, not some paper rating. Outside of tech and maybe an extra 1/5 of a second better 0-60, I really don't see where the new Sequoia is superior to the old.
03-20-23, 06:55 PM
#624
Lexus Fanatic
It makes sense you would like it xjokerz because you like old cars and hate modern designs and technology. It was like a new 15 year old vehicle.
The old Sequoia was an excellent vehicle if you didn't care about your new vehicle having any design, technology, material quality, features you would find in competitive vehicles. When I buy a new vehicle, I want it to feel new and current.
Its like the 4 Runner loaner I have now, its fun but it feels like a car that was made 20 years ago. Everything about it is basically the same as my friend's 2013 4 Runner, right down to the old digital clock on the dash. Now, if that platform and capable vehicle had a modern interior with modern amenities and technology, it would be really compelling. Its dated nature just makes it something I personally could ever spend $50,000 for. The old Sequoia was the same way. 15 seconds sitting in it and I had no desire to own one.
The new Sequoia I like the looks of it, and I even like the interior, its got the tech it feels modern I would buy it except the space, ride and handling are such a disappointment. If Toyota could just put those two things together...
The old Sequoia was an excellent vehicle if you didn't care about your new vehicle having any design, technology, material quality, features you would find in competitive vehicles. When I buy a new vehicle, I want it to feel new and current.
Its like the 4 Runner loaner I have now, its fun but it feels like a car that was made 20 years ago. Everything about it is basically the same as my friend's 2013 4 Runner, right down to the old digital clock on the dash. Now, if that platform and capable vehicle had a modern interior with modern amenities and technology, it would be really compelling. Its dated nature just makes it something I personally could ever spend $50,000 for. The old Sequoia was the same way. 15 seconds sitting in it and I had no desire to own one.
The new Sequoia I like the looks of it, and I even like the interior, its got the tech it feels modern I would buy it except the space, ride and handling are such a disappointment. If Toyota could just put those two things together...
03-20-23, 06:58 PM
#625
Lexus Fanatic
It makes sense you would like it xjokerz because you like old cars and hate modern designs and technology. It was like a new 15 year old vehicle.
The old Sequoia was an excellent vehicle if you didn't care about your new vehicle having any design, technology, material quality, features you would find in competitive vehicles. When I buy a new vehicle, I want it to feel new and current.
Its like the 4 Runner loaner I have now, its fun but it feels like a car that was made 20 years ago. Everything about it is basically the same as my friend's 2013 4 Runner, right down to the old digital clock on the dash. Now, if that platform and capable vehicle had a modern interior with modern amenities and technology, it would be really compelling. Its dated nature just makes it something I personally could ever spend $50,000 for. The old Sequoia was the same way. 15 seconds sitting in it and I had no desire to own one.
The new Sequoia I like the looks of it, and I even like the interior, its got the tech it feels modern I would buy it except the space, ride and handling are such a disappointment. If Toyota could just put those two things together...
The old Sequoia was an excellent vehicle if you didn't care about your new vehicle having any design, technology, material quality, features you would find in competitive vehicles. When I buy a new vehicle, I want it to feel new and current.
Its like the 4 Runner loaner I have now, its fun but it feels like a car that was made 20 years ago. Everything about it is basically the same as my friend's 2013 4 Runner, right down to the old digital clock on the dash. Now, if that platform and capable vehicle had a modern interior with modern amenities and technology, it would be really compelling. Its dated nature just makes it something I personally could ever spend $50,000 for. The old Sequoia was the same way. 15 seconds sitting in it and I had no desire to own one.
The new Sequoia I like the looks of it, and I even like the interior, its got the tech it feels modern I would buy it except the space, ride and handling are such a disappointment. If Toyota could just put those two things together...
03-20-23, 06:59 PM
#626
Lexus Fanatic
03-20-23, 07:02 PM
#627
Lexus Fanatic
03-20-23, 07:05 PM
#628
Lexus Fanatic
Its just not a good overall package, steps forward some places steps backwards others. That doesn't mean the previous Sequoia was a compelling option either, it wasn't. Both vehicles were designed to sell to Toyota faithful and not to compete with the others in the segment because they know their customers won't consider a vehicle that isn't a Toyota
03-20-23, 07:07 PM
#629
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
man that dealer sticker is criminal. 
do you really think they'll get close to that price? might not be top trim but you can probably get an escalade for that money.
agreed.
the old sequoia, while old, i still respected as an awesome 'apocalypse' vehicle.
the new one is just terrible.
Buyers will be returning buyers who wouldn't consider a Tahoe or Wagoneer out of "reliability fears"...for those buyers it really has no competition.
I don't think buyers of these vehicles care about fuel economy. I wouldn't...if I cared I wouldn't buy a vehicle like that.
I don't think buyers of these vehicles care about fuel economy. I wouldn't...if I cared I wouldn't buy a vehicle like that.
the old sequoia, while old, i still respected as an awesome 'apocalypse' vehicle.
the new one is just terrible.
03-20-23, 07:14 PM
#630
Lexus Fanatic
Its just not a good overall package, steps forward some places steps backwards others. That doesn't mean the previous Sequoia was a compelling option either, it wasn't. Both vehicles were designed to sell to Toyota faithful and not to compete with the others in the segment because they know their customers won't consider a vehicle that isn't a Toyota
‘’this is just mind boggling. From the largest auto maker in the world.