Interesting. I have always just assumed (especially with pano roofs) that they come standard on higher trims. Didn't think of them being optional.

 

Yep, it was an $1800 option on the Denali but I'm sure most come that way.

It's epic, the new generation of sunroofs. The panorama roof goes way back, the sunroof opens huge, and the whole shade is powered. Black headliner on top of it all. But yes, some people literally don't want them...

I know it's not new tech but it is to me, and yes....it is roomy AF in there, especially with the captain's chairs.

 

My only issue with panoramic roofs is that they let more noise into the cabin...

 

the only 'value' in a sunroof for me is letting heat out quickly on a hot day. other than that, i wish i could get whatever vehicle includes it without it.

 

Interesting. I love the "openness" that having a sunroof provides - even if the roof itself is not open, I almost always have the shade opened to let the light in (even in August in FL!) Tesla's don't have sun roofs but I did opt for the entire glass roof and it's amazing how open everything feels with the light coming in (and it's not hot at all).

 

Hmm, I'll listen for that next time I have any time with it.

LC offers a sunroof right? I'm all about sunroofs. They're great when the weather is nice.

Me too. My LS has a nice very large "Luxury car" moonroof and I enjoy the shade open as well as closed.

​​​​​​​They're also great at night.

 

They definitely do, even your regular sunroof. Listen on the highway when you close the shade and open the shade.

 

Oh yeah.....

 

Basically I agree...although you aren't quite as firmly against them as I am. For many reasons, a sunroof is a deal-breaker for me....I don't want one at all.

 

So if the perfect car you wanted had a moonroof (but nothing else you didn't want) you would pass? Why?

My stepdad never used his once I'm sure, but he wasn't "against them". They just came with the cars he bought.

 

I'm driving the perfect car for me right now (or, at least, one very-well-suited to my driving-conditions).....without a sunroof. I special-ordered it that way.

 

Why exactly do you not like them, or are "adamant" against them? Just genuinely curious. I get it, I hate pushbutton ignition and always will just because I like nice keys and expensive feeling ignition locks.

 

Several reasons....although some posters have disagreed with me in the past on the reasons. One, they cost more. Two, the housings for them, in the vehicle's ceiling, typically (but not always) take up about an extra inch of headroom, which can be important for tall people. Three, the big hole in the roof cuts out some of the roof's structural integrity...although modern computer-engineering of vehicle-frame strength has lessened that somewhat. Four, over time, they can cause squeaks, rattles, and leaks. Fifth, and perhaps this, to me, is the most important reason...if the electrics fail just as a big rainstorm is approaching, automakers, perhaps because of cost-cutting, don't provide an emergency hand-crank anymore to crank it shut like they used to.

I partly, but not totally, agree with you on the push-button ignition. I like the convenience of the push-button for most starts, but it is easier, with a key, to know when the ignition switch is in the OFF, ACC, ON, or START position at a glance....if, say, you need momentary accessory-power for the windows or other features when the engine is shut down.

 

assume you're talking about the lc500 not the land cruiser.

the lc offers a non-opening glass roof:

my one has the carbon fiber roof which i love.

 

i NEVER open the shade on my santa fe (which is a panoramic roof, half opening, half fixed). i see no reason to let light in.

about your tesla, you said you opted for the entire glass roof... i thought they only came that way?

as for feeling open, i'd rather it felt closed like a cockpit. if i wanted open i'd drive a van.