Man , I feel like this car could have been something like a new GS, give it the new 2.4 turbo 4 as a base and a plug in like the RAV4 Prime and RX450h I think we would have something special . I honestly do not see the point of this car and I am a big fan of Toyota and Lexus cars. I find Toyota is making their cars having too much similarity these days with their Lexus counterparts. In this day and age I want to see more stuff unique specific for only Lexus a company that got me started loving cars back in the 1990s.

 

I'm pretty sure the Sport or Estate version will be coming here too. Yesterday we drove past a car carrier that had two highly camouflaged SUVs on the back. Coming from the rear, I thought they vaguely looked like a Macan, but we're a little too far out from the next-gen (all-electric) Macan for that to make sense. But they had a really thin, wide grille that reminded me of the one on the Corolla. Looking at the pictures released this weekend, I'm almost positive that what we saw were production test mules of one of the other Crown models, likely the Sport.

 

I read Toyota is claiming significant revisions to the TNGA-K platform to make it much more stiff than before. That's nice considering TNGA is already at or near top of the pile in that arena. So a new ES would be even stiffer and quieter (as you'd expect). Not necessary but welcomed.

I wouldn't mind an 8ES as a 7ES re-skin like the IS, but with a revised body. I don't want no crown ES =(

 

I like a high riding sedan done well... I don't want to feel like I'm driving an Outback type car. =/ I feel the 7ES does this well. It LOOKS low but rides fairly high.

 

I guess I am in the minority. I think the Sedan version of the Crown looks great. I wish it was a bit lower but still like the overall look. The specs are very impressive too.

 

Agree it's pretty impressive specs wise. Wonder how a crown sedan hybrid would compare to say a 2023 ES given the TNGA-K updates. Say ride quality and quietness.

 

Toyota on Viagra? I heard the same for the 7ES .

 

Confirmed with my son, he is 99% sure the camo'd mules we saw yesterday were the Crown Sport.

 

I have driven the current Gen Crown with its RWD 3.5L multistage hybrid. Already rides better than the ES and is quieter than the es300h during acceleration.

 

So you've essentially driven what the GS500h was going to be.

Jealous doesn't describe it.

...and now you guys get a rav4 with the "crown" badge...

 

I still believe that the design of these +4" hi riding sedans can be improved if the energy storage sandwich has the often empty liquid fuel tank above the solid battery pack for a lower center of gravity; rather than vice versa.

Theoretically, a plug-in PHEV version could have the fuel tank above a much bigger battery pack sandwich, rather than having the PHEV battery pack on the rear overhang which: dimishes trunk capacity, deletes the spare tire [often for less comfortable run-flats], increases the Polar Moment of Inertia for more sluggish direction changes, and is ultimately less safe in a rear collision.

 

High resolution videos (interior of the platinum model and exterior of the limited model).

The interior one is particularly interesting. The full LCD dash seems quite clear and easy to read.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/toyota-cms-...ior_B-Roll.mp4

https://s3.amazonaws.com/toyota-cms-...ted_B-Roll.mp4

 

Toyota is hell bent on dying on giant grille hill. Sad.

 

of course, it is more expensive vehicle.

This Crown steps back, it is going to be 30% cheaper than old version of Crown in Japan, which is the main point of moving to more scalable platform that can share costs across much larger production. It will be more competitive. And at the same time, it also way more luxurious compared to previous Toyota FWD premium vehicles, such as Avalon and Highlander.

 

something about this pic makes me think how bad ICE vehicles are because that engine looks like a very heavy mountain up front. EVs may be heavier, but at least the weight distribution is great.