bitkahuna

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yup, no surprise. i'm sure there are a lot of people there that don't welcome tesla's arrival.

in germany, non-union plants won't be possible unless they use all freelance labor, so they don't have to worry about that.

open, or don't have any choice?

yup. Car company employee unions are very powerful in europe. They've thankfully lost most of that power in the u.s. GM and Ford just continue to wait for retired UAW workers to die to relieve them of the absurdly huge ball and chain.

that's hilarious and we're not here to debate politics. I'll just leave you with these FACTS to chew on though.

Global shares of billion dollar startups by country

mmarshall

A cold and uncaring statement. Those workers gave decades of their lives, and, in some cases, suffered repetitive-motion-injuries, to help GM and Ford meet their production needs. To look upon them as a "ball and chain" is outrageous. They worked for, and earned, every penny of their benefits.

EZZ

VW would be so dumb to fire him. But let them. He'd have a job at Tesla the next day as COO and a year later to be CEO. Lol

AMIRZA786

I have to second this. My father lost half his pension when he was forced to retire one year early in the mid 90's by Northrop Aircraft after giving them 17 years of his life to them. Every single penny in his pension was money he put in, minus maybe the 3 percent they matched. People think this is money generously given to employees by their companies, this is money mismanaged by GM taken from the employees paychecks.

I'm just curious why Americans in particular don't think companies should give employees comfortable retirements, the CEO's and executives certainly get them, at the expense of workers. As a Director level working for a medical device start-up I probably shouldn't have this belief, but I guess that means I have some sort of soul

Toys4RJill

Because the majorly of people don’t have a company pension. Companies don’t care either as the leaders have made it too easily to not offer it. I simply can’t believe that there are people in America who work for employers yet they cannot obtain healthcare coverage. Fascinating to me

I think unions have their place. Just depends on what side you are on. There are some they would like nothing better than to see all jobs offshore to China…sad roght?

Allen K

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Let's nix the pension and union talk at this point.