MM-Review: 2022 Genesis GV70
11-11-21 | 08:27 PM
#16
You're right about the GV70 and GV80 being a big part of Genesis in the US market. The GV70 and GV80 accounted for 64% of Genesis sales in Oct. These numbers will only continue to grow The G80 and especially the G90 seem to be at concerning low levels. Genesis really needs to get their dealership situation straightened out.
US - 5,300
G70 - 1,196
GV70 - 1,869
G80 - 527
GV80 - 1,505
G90 - 203
US - 5,300
G70 - 1,196
GV70 - 1,869
G80 - 527
GV80 - 1,505
G90 - 203
as for the g80, again, midsize luxury sedans aren't an easy sell in the u.s. either except for the e-class, 5 series, and lexus ES.
genesis does have a new g90 coming next year, but i don't expect it to do great either.
11-11-21 | 11:26 PM
#17
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You're right about the GV70 and GV80 being a big part of Genesis in the US market. The GV70 and GV80 accounted for 64% of Genesis sales in Oct. These numbers will only continue to grow The G80 and especially the G90 seem to be at concerning low levels. Genesis really needs to get their dealership situation straightened out.
US - 5,300
G70 - 1,196
GV70 - 1,869
G80 - 527
GV80 - 1,505
G90 - 203
US - 5,300
G70 - 1,196
GV70 - 1,869
G80 - 527
GV80 - 1,505
G90 - 203
It's as you say, they need to get their dealership network straightened out if they want to push BMW-level volumes. But I also wonder how much pushing BMW-level volumes is a priority for them considering they've made zero progress in expanding the dealer network. Heck, the GV70 didn't even get an official press launch in the U.S.
EDIT: They aren't legally allowed to build separate dealerships so they build this in New York instead...
Genesis Wants To Cement Luxury Credibility With Sophisticated Brand Experience In NYC
Genesis today announced the opening of the Genesis House New York, a “sophisticated oasis” that aims to show the city the best of Korean luxury as envisioned by the automaker. To that end, it will feature a restaurant, a tea pavilion, a cellar stage, a library, a terrace garden, and a showroom.
“Genesis House is not just a showroom. This is a sophisticated oasis. The place where we share our inspirations at the heart of New York City,” said Jay Chang, Global Head of the Genesis Brand. “It will show the world who we are as a brand: audacious, progressive, and distinctly Korean.”
Designed by the Seoul, Korea-based firm, Suh Architects, the 46,000 square foot (4,340 square meters) space is “distinctly Korean throughout.” Per Genesis, it offers nourishment for both the body and the mind and will feature curated programs to engage New York in “cultural conversations about design, food, travel, health, and the future of mobility.”
Guests will be able to dine at the Genesis House Restaurant, a 9,600-square-foot (890 square meter) restaurant that is the first international expansion of Onjium, a Michelin-starred restaurant in Seoul.
Dedicated to creating a new and lasting heritage that takes inspiration from Korean culture, the restaurant celebrates ancient stories and flavors of Korean Noble Class cuisine by putting them in a new light. Marrying techniques and recipes dating back to the 1300s with progressive elements, the restaurant hopes to delight and surprise diners.
The tea pavilion, meanwhile, is a veranda-like living room space that features customized boryo floor seating. It borrows motifs from the chaekgado painting style to visualize the philosophy of virtuous scholars known as seonbi. A gridded bookshelf showcases collectibles and acts as a wall for the pavilion, while windows frame panoramic views of the Hudson River and the High Line.
The Cellar Stage is located below the ground floor and offers a large event space that runs the length of the building. With floor-to-ceiling LED-lit staging areas and state-of-the-art A/V tech, it will be just as well equipped to launch a new vehicle as it is to host thought leadership summits.
A library, meanwhile, is curated by LVMH publisher Assouline. Filled with special edition books, luxury display items, and unique accessories, the library is also full of Korean objects, thanks to Korean non-profit Arumjigi.
A 9,500 square foot (882 square meter) terrace garden, meanwhile, offers guests an unobstructed view of the High Line. It is surrounded by traditional Korean landscaping of white sand and gravel that is adorned with greenery.
Finally, the main floor showroom offers guests an opportunity to experience the latest Genesis vehicles in a relaxed environment. Vehicles are framed as finely crafted objects of desire, using reflections from a tessellated mirror display to amplify their engineering. From metallic mesh curtains to translucent copper, the materials are designed to dazzle visitors.
Genesis House New York opens to the general public on November 19 and the details of each model will be offered in a variety of languages, including Spanish, English, Chinese, Korean, and more. It will be open from Tuesday to Sunday from 11 a.m. to 10 p.m.
“Genesis House is not just a showroom. This is a sophisticated oasis. The place where we share our inspirations at the heart of New York City,” said Jay Chang, Global Head of the Genesis Brand. “It will show the world who we are as a brand: audacious, progressive, and distinctly Korean.”
Designed by the Seoul, Korea-based firm, Suh Architects, the 46,000 square foot (4,340 square meters) space is “distinctly Korean throughout.” Per Genesis, it offers nourishment for both the body and the mind and will feature curated programs to engage New York in “cultural conversations about design, food, travel, health, and the future of mobility.”
Guests will be able to dine at the Genesis House Restaurant, a 9,600-square-foot (890 square meter) restaurant that is the first international expansion of Onjium, a Michelin-starred restaurant in Seoul.
Dedicated to creating a new and lasting heritage that takes inspiration from Korean culture, the restaurant celebrates ancient stories and flavors of Korean Noble Class cuisine by putting them in a new light. Marrying techniques and recipes dating back to the 1300s with progressive elements, the restaurant hopes to delight and surprise diners.
The tea pavilion, meanwhile, is a veranda-like living room space that features customized boryo floor seating. It borrows motifs from the chaekgado painting style to visualize the philosophy of virtuous scholars known as seonbi. A gridded bookshelf showcases collectibles and acts as a wall for the pavilion, while windows frame panoramic views of the Hudson River and the High Line.
The Cellar Stage is located below the ground floor and offers a large event space that runs the length of the building. With floor-to-ceiling LED-lit staging areas and state-of-the-art A/V tech, it will be just as well equipped to launch a new vehicle as it is to host thought leadership summits.
A library, meanwhile, is curated by LVMH publisher Assouline. Filled with special edition books, luxury display items, and unique accessories, the library is also full of Korean objects, thanks to Korean non-profit Arumjigi.
A 9,500 square foot (882 square meter) terrace garden, meanwhile, offers guests an unobstructed view of the High Line. It is surrounded by traditional Korean landscaping of white sand and gravel that is adorned with greenery.
Finally, the main floor showroom offers guests an opportunity to experience the latest Genesis vehicles in a relaxed environment. Vehicles are framed as finely crafted objects of desire, using reflections from a tessellated mirror display to amplify their engineering. From metallic mesh curtains to translucent copper, the materials are designed to dazzle visitors.
Genesis House New York opens to the general public on November 19 and the details of each model will be offered in a variety of languages, including Spanish, English, Chinese, Korean, and more. It will be open from Tuesday to Sunday from 11 a.m. to 10 p.m.
Last edited by Motorola; 11-11-21 at 11:54 PM.
11-12-21 | 05:15 AM
#19
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Nice review MM! GV70 is a looker as far as SUVs go. Already saw a few on the road in the Toronto area (as well as the GV80). These SUVs provide luxury, styling, performance, quality, and value.
11-12-21 | 06:51 AM
#20
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As mentioned, it's the dealership situation most hurting Genesis. The 2021 JD Power Sales Satisfaction study came out a few days ago, and not only was Genesis last yet again but it also suffered the largest decline among luxury brands. So not only was the dealer situation bad, but it's getting significantly worse. Yes, there may be some fine Hyundai dealers. But by and large they are failing from a satisfaction standpoint when it comes to selling premium cars. Part of Lexus' sustained success has been their customer satisfaction. Without that, no matter how good the vehicles are, Genesis will not build a repeat customer base and will struggle.
https://www.forbes.com/wheels/news/j-d-power-ssi/
"The lowest score among premium brands was Genesis (738), which had the highest percentage of rejecters among all brands (39%). Genesis also had the biggest score drop, down a huge 35 points. It was unchanged in rank because it was already at the bottom."
https://www.forbes.com/wheels/news/j-d-power-ssi/
"The lowest score among premium brands was Genesis (738), which had the highest percentage of rejecters among all brands (39%). Genesis also had the biggest score drop, down a huge 35 points. It was unchanged in rank because it was already at the bottom."
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11-12-21 | 08:23 AM
#23
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11-12-21 | 08:27 AM
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Then those people can buy a much less advanced and sophisticated RX or like bit said, a mainstream vehicle since they clearly prioritize cost over quality and sophistication. There is nothing wrong with that.
I for one am thrilled that Genesis has proper, premium offerings that put design and dynamics over cost and economy...thats what a luxury vehicle should be. Truly the new Lexus. You're just not a luxury car buyer, which is fine most people aren't. I'm happy to pump premium fuel into a really well made, well designed premium vehicle.
I for one am thrilled that Genesis has proper, premium offerings that put design and dynamics over cost and economy...thats what a luxury vehicle should be. Truly the new Lexus. You're just not a luxury car buyer, which is fine most people aren't. I'm happy to pump premium fuel into a really well made, well designed premium vehicle.
11-12-21 | 08:35 AM
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Yeah you are right. NX should be compared. But go back and read the post where the member was asking if the GV70 would be a replacement for the RX that their mother has.
Anyways….this came today in the mail. CRs take. I expected a higher score
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 11-12-21 at 08:49 AM.
11-12-21 | 08:55 AM
#28
gv70 is more modern, more nx sized, more powerful, more luxurious.
11-12-21 | 08:59 AM
#30
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You're probably aware, aren't you, that the GV70 (and G70) were derived from the Stinger platform that you once had?