SW17LS

If Mercedes can make a reliable air suspension system, Genesis certainly can

Toys4RJill

I somewhat agree. My air went out at the 15 year mark. Was really pointless to repair with OEM. So just did a delete. Glad my new SUV doesn’t have it

SW17LS

Air suspension is 100% worth the repair risk. Its such a nice improvement from a refinement standpoint.

Toys4RJill

I think for some cars maybe. No for me. At year 15 I wasn’t interested as a coil conversion was $1000.

what would a 2004 S class full air suspension replacement cost? Scared to know

SW17LS

I would never drive a 15 year old anything, so that isn’t a concern for me, nor for most people who buy cars like this.

Motorola

The G90 doesn't use a normal air suspension either, it's a more complex 3-chamber setup like the Panamera. To my knowledge, none of the German trio use this in their flagship sedans. Mercedes also offers a multi-chamber air suspension but I believe it's only two chambers. Audi only uses 3-chamber in their sports cars like the R8 and E-Tron GT.

This along with that Motorworld driving impression video posted a few pages back claiming that it drives more like a 7 Series than an S-Class, I'm under the impression that Genesis is trying to make the G90 more of a sporty flagship sedan than a pillowy experience. Funny how that parallels what Lexus tried to do with the LS500, though the G90 looks like it has far less trade-offs. I trust Albert Biermann to have done his homework.

Striker223

About $7k if you want the valve block and compressor

Toys4RJill

Probably too late to make a difference with dealers. . Genesis seems to be really really late to scene. Yes, they had a decent year at 49K My guess is so,EV higher end Lexus owners are coming to brand but most are very likely current KIA owners looking to update and upgrade

Toys4RJill

You think it’s worth it?

Motorola

lol, as if a Sorento buyer is ever going to be able to afford a GV80. Genesis buyers are very obviously not Hyundai and Kia buyers. Otherwise you wouldn't see them cry about the dealerships as much.

Toys4RJill

Suppose someone with a no longer in production K900 wants to sell his/her fancy car, a Genesis would be the perfect fit. Suppose someone with a KIA Telli has their lease expiring, a GV80 would be ideal. Some people still get promoted these days and make their way up the income scales The progressive move from Hyundai to a KIA and up to a Genesis keeps buyers on the family

Motorola

Nobody bought the K900. And a loaded Telluride at $55K is the starting price of an AWD base model GV80 with the 2.5T. Also the Telluride and Palisade have only been out for a couple years- nobody who owns one right now is going to "move up" to a GV80 within a single year.

The only Kia and Genesis products that anyone would cross-shop are the Stinger and G70, and the Stinger is billed as Kia's halo car while the G70 is merely Genesis's entry level model. Hyundai/Kia are so below Genesis in price that it's laughable to even think they attract the same buyers.

bitkahuna

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may be a blanket statement that isn't necessarily true depending on the situation. of course an air suspension is a nicer ride, but when it comes to replacing one, if the most arduous journey one makes in the vehicle with the air suspension is to get groceries, Starbucks, or UPS, then perhaps repair isn't worth it.

o'rly?
holy sweeping stereotype, batman.


I was/am, didn't/don't cry especially as genesis does the concierge pickup/drop off. the Hyundai I now have means I have to go to the dealer (drop off or wait unless they have a loaner - not likely in short supply times now!), I dropped off this recent time (1st time as a Hyundai customer) and it was fine.

Toys4RJill

Genesis G70 starts at $36K. GV70 starts at $39K. Definitely some overlap with the top end Hyundai models and KIA.

Motorola

You know your comparison falls apart the moment you have to compare the cheapest vehicles in their base model form in Genesis to the highest trim Hyundai/Kia models for the price to even be anywhere close to one another. Meanwhile, a loaded Highlander costs as much as a mid-trim RX 350.