2023 Genesis G90 Revealed!!
08-04-22, 08:31 AM
#391
Lexus Test Driver
comparing s580 and g90 is pretty stupid. a similar feature set s580 costs tens of thousands more but obviously has an amazing v8 vs a pretty great v6.
alternatively cherry picking a low option s580 means while it's closer in cost it isn't close in feature content of the g90.
certainly ANY s-class has a century of reputation, prestige, etc. which no g90 will be able to compete with. instead, the g90 is a value play offering a TON of features in a single package offering... only choices are engine and color!
alternatively cherry picking a low option s580 means while it's closer in cost it isn't close in feature content of the g90.
certainly ANY s-class has a century of reputation, prestige, etc. which no g90 will be able to compete with. instead, the g90 is a value play offering a TON of features in a single package offering... only choices are engine and color!
What options are not standard on S580?
The car comes fully loaded.
Options that you can choose are not even available on G90 in the first place.
A value play with noisy underpowered V6 vs a smooth quiet powerful V8. Lol
08-04-22, 09:06 AM
#392
Numbers only mean something if they equate real world performance, which in this case the LS500 is no faster than the on-paper less powerful last generation G90. If its anything like the S500 powertrain, the new one will unquestionably mop the floor with the LS in a straight line lol.
08-04-22, 09:46 AM
#393
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
A value play with noisy underpowered V6 vs a smooth quiet powerful V8. Lol
Remember, I live in S Class world now, I know the content of these cars backwards and forwards.
08-04-22, 10:12 AM
#394
So they're basically the same, nbd, I'll still take the "slow" Lexus all day. Honestly doesn't matter much anyway arguing a first gen G90 vs LS500. When a review lines up a new G90 e-s vs a LS500 we'll have better data to go off of. And said S500 is 429hp and 384lbft with a 4.9 0-60, that's not exactly mopping the floor lol
Weight and gearing
Weight and gearing
The LS has ten gears so if anything that should have given it an advantage off the line. It is a lot porkier than the S500 admittedly, but electric propulsion from a mild hybrid always gives more instant torque regardless of weight. The old G90 is barely 200 pounds less than the LS and has only 8 gears, the LS should have stomped it yet didn't..
Last edited by Motorola; 08-04-22 at 10:18 AM.
08-04-22, 10:15 AM
#395
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
Honestly, all of these cars are plenty fast. 0-60 times won't impact my purchase decision in any way.
08-04-22, 10:22 AM
#396
Lexus Champion
08-04-22, 10:31 AM
#397
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
08-04-22, 10:40 AM
#398
C&D clocked the S500 to 60 in just 4.5 seconds, so in reality it's almost a full second faster than the supposedly much torquier LS500. That's why we can't just take power numbers at face value.
The LS has ten gears so if anything that should have given it an advantage off the line. It is a lot porkier than the S500 admittedly, but electric propulsion from a mild hybrid always gives more instant torque regardless of weight. The old G90 is barely 200 pounds less than the LS and has only 8 gears, the LS should have stomped it yet didn't..
The LS has ten gears so if anything that should have given it an advantage off the line. It is a lot porkier than the S500 admittedly, but electric propulsion from a mild hybrid always gives more instant torque regardless of weight. The old G90 is barely 200 pounds less than the LS and has only 8 gears, the LS should have stomped it yet didn't..
08-04-22, 12:49 PM
#399
Lexus Champion
The LS500s engine is just a massive disappointment since the car doesn't even allow you to spool before going. It literally has difficulty vs a 460 yet alone anything German for the last 10 years. Add in the fact it's a low mount system with no tuning options and the car is pointless since a same price 7/S with a I-6 can curb stomp it stock to stock and actually have tunes/power upgrades that make them compete with the V8s with ease.
It's not a flagship if you are getting outran by a mustang. Road dominance also involves being able to outrun nearly everyone at will.
It's not a flagship if you are getting outran by a mustang. Road dominance also involves being able to outrun nearly everyone at will.
08-04-22, 02:04 PM
#400
Lexus Fanatic
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seems we need a carwow drag race of ls500, g90, s-class 
(i hate those videos)
(i hate those videos)
08-04-22, 02:07 PM
#401
Lexus Fanatic
I mean, money is money. It would be one thing if I could go get another S Class for what I am paying for the S Class I have, but replacing my S Class with another comparable S Class will cost me $1,000 a month more. I love the car but I don't know that I want to pay that much more to "tread water"
s.
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08-04-22, 02:15 PM
#402
C&D clocked the S500 to 60 in just 4.5 seconds, so in reality it's almost a full second faster than the supposedly much torquier LS500. That's why we can't just take power numbers at face value.
The LS has ten gears so if anything that should have given it an advantage off the line. It is a lot porkier than the S500 admittedly, but electric propulsion from a mild hybrid always gives more instant torque regardless of weight. The old G90 is barely 200 pounds less than the LS and has only 8 gears, the LS should have stomped it yet didn't..
The LS has ten gears so if anything that should have given it an advantage off the line. It is a lot porkier than the S500 admittedly, but electric propulsion from a mild hybrid always gives more instant torque regardless of weight. The old G90 is barely 200 pounds less than the LS and has only 8 gears, the LS should have stomped it yet didn't..
Back to the topic.... It is a nice looking sedan. Still haven't been ready for a Korean car yet.
08-04-22, 02:23 PM
#404
Lexus Champion
08-04-22, 02:42 PM
#405
One of my favorite sayings: Every car is fast, some just take longer
