Originally Posted by 1111GS

I thought LS500 can get 4.6-5.0s?


Yeah these are all darn fast. Not really makes any difference IMO. For reference LC500 is at 4.7, GSF is at 4.4. Anything under 6 will be more sufficient. 5.3 is more than sufficient for me.

Back to the topic.... It is a nice looking sedan. Still haven't been ready for a Korean car yet.

Originally Posted by Striker223

not a flagship if you are getting outran by a mustang. Road dominance also involves being able to outrun nearly everyone at will.

Originally Posted by LexsCTJill

I don’t think the S500 is a downgrade as you are still in a Mercedes. And you get a very rare I6

Originally Posted by AJT123

Surely you're exaggerating? 50 grand extra????? For a V8?

Originally Posted by Hoovey689

So you're saying an Audi A8 3.0 or S500 isn't a flagship because their V6/I6 powerplants are too near par with say a tunable Mustang 2.3? What about muscle cars and their large supercharged V8's? You're going to say your A8 4.0 is not a flagship because a Hellcat can beat you? Heck, one could build a Civic that has utter road dominance to six figure flagships. Haven't even mentioned the slew of EV's that could smoke flagships. Elsewhere in the world flagships have puny little diesel engines, does that make them less of a flagship among their brand or peers? A flagship by definition is 'the finest, largest, or most important one of the group of things (products, stores etc.)'. Nothing about says it has to be the fastest. A flagship is about emotion and the experience. Based on your signature you have and have had flagships before, that's why I find your statement odd.

One of my favorite sayings: Every car is fast, some just take longer

Originally Posted by Striker223

Correct. I would NEVER buy a 6 in those cars and fun fact I kill hellcats on street starts and they only catch me at 110-120. A civic will never be comfortable at 130 sustained for hours at a time nor does it have any plus sides other than speed if you made it faster, everything else is inferior. If you buy a 6 in those cars the only emotion you would get is annoyed when everything is able to keep up with you and you can't just step up to 120 and away from all the normal cars.

It's all about being the best or well above the competition in all but one area, if someone beats you in one area you should be superior in all others.

Originally Posted by SW17LS

Well, the A8 doesn’t come in a V8 here anymore, have to get the S8.

I would get a 6 in the S Class for a large enough price delta. $7,500 isn’t it. It’s already $125,000, what’s another $7,500 for the V8? That’s why you see so few S500s vs S580s

Originally Posted by 1111GS

I thought LS500 can get 4.6-5.0s?

Originally Posted by SW17LS

Honestly, all of these cars are plenty fast. 0-60 times won't impact my purchase decision in any way.

Originally Posted by bitkahuna

that's plenty to get to the starbucks drivethru
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna

i don't know how many people have driven these large sedans but none of them are SLOW! lol

whether they're under or just over 5 seconds 0-60 that's plenty to get to the starbucks drivethru

and whether they're tt v6 or v8 or tt v8 or e SC v8 or whatever, they're ALL incredibly smooth.

#firstworldproblems

Originally Posted by LexsCTJill

Too bad they all start-stop in the drive thru

Originally Posted by bitkahuna

seems we need a carwow drag race of ls500, g90, s-class
(i hate those videos)

Originally Posted by Motorola

Numbers only mean something if they equate real world performance, which in this case the LS500 is no faster than the on-paper less powerful last generation G90. If its anything like the S500 powertrain, the new one will unquestionably mop the floor with the LS in a straight line lol.
Seriously, how can a vehicle that has 442 ft-lbs of torque be no faster than a vehicle with 70 less. Lexus overstated the power figures.

Originally Posted by Striker223

I could not get better than 5.5 on three test drives in a LS500

Originally Posted by 1111GS

They sometimes have some mixed vehicles for fun. I think it'd be interesting to add an SUV... like the X5 40i. Lol



I never really looked into the LS specs because I personally don't think it's worth the money but was curious.... Wow with those hp, torque and weight, it's no faster than a standard X5 with 100ft-lbs less and almost 1k more lbs.

Originally Posted by SW17LS

To a certain extent. Am I going to pay $50,000 more for a vehicle simply because it has a V8? No. Would I pay the additional $7,500 to buy the 580 vs the 500? Every time.

Originally Posted by RNM GS3

So what exactly is wrong with the S580 that i linked which was $119k which is only $20k more not $50k than G90. It has timeless styling, V8, more advanced tech, suspension etc.

G90 should be priced under LS500 while offering performance and luxury that outdoes Sclass. It clearly doesn’t and as a result will sell in minuscule quantities in the US.

Originally Posted by RNM GS3

So what exactly is wrong with the S580 that i linked which was $119k which is only $20k more not $50k than G90. It has timeless styling, V8, more advanced tech, suspension etc.