2023 Genesis G90 Revealed!!
#646
71.5 dB, louder than the 2020 he tested. When I drove the refresh LS500 I saw no improvement in noise, there is an improvement in ride. Its just not luxury car quiet inside.
70 dB. So according to Alex the Pacifica is quieter than the LS500. He tests at a lower speed than I do, and wind noise sets into the Pacifica about 70 MPH so that explains why I measured the LS500 as being 1dB quieter.
But no, the LS500 is nowhere near as quiet as an LS460, S Class, 7 Series, A8 etc. He measured 68 dB for the S560, 68.5 for the S580, 68.5 for the G90, 68.5 for the 7 Series, 69 for a GLS, etc
70 dB. So according to Alex the Pacifica is quieter than the LS500. He tests at a lower speed than I do, and wind noise sets into the Pacifica about 70 MPH so that explains why I measured the LS500 as being 1dB quieter.
But no, the LS500 is nowhere near as quiet as an LS460, S Class, 7 Series, A8 etc. He measured 68 dB for the S560, 68.5 for the S580, 68.5 for the G90, 68.5 for the 7 Series, 69 for a GLS, etc
similarly, i was surprised my lc500 lets as much road noise into the cabin as it does. again, it's not bad on good roads when cruising, but the run flats are definitely noisy on bad surfaces and the LC doesn't have double-pane side glass.
anyway, thanks for providing the videos and info on LS vs. Pacifica and others. since i won't be buying either i don't really care.
Last edited by bitkahuna; 01-08-23 at 09:39 AM.
#647
in the video at the point you mentioned, he says it's a) likely the tires, b) it's noticeable on bad roads, c) on good roads it's just as quiet as other flagships, d) i suspect it was a deliberate decision by lexus to not make this a total cocoon. the ls500 is clearly meant to 'seem' sportier than previous LS's even if it's not really that sporty.
I suspect also it was Lexus' decision to do this, like most of their other decisions when designing that car I think it was a mistake and it lost them my business and many other people's business.
similarly, i was surprised my lc500 lets as much road noise into the cabin as it does
anyway, thanks for providing the videos and info on LS vs. Pacifica and others. since i won't be buying either i don't really care.
Last edited by SW17LS; 01-08-23 at 07:32 AM.
#648
#649
At speed, they're going to be the same. Same argument when you said the LS600hL would be quieter than all the other flagship sedans. Why would the LS600hL be quieter than the LS460 but the LS500h be louder than the LS500? Because it fits your narrative isn't an answer. They're the same car, only difference is one is a hybrid and one isn't and that makes the way they sound when accelerating different. Hybrid is definately louder when accelerating but they are the same at cruise. How do I know? Because I've driven them and measured.
I was right, no big deal.
I was right, no big deal.
Last edited by SW17LS; 01-08-23 at 10:06 AM.
#651
Saw the new G90 today. Doesn’t have the presence of the Germans. (Nowhere close). To me, it looks like Hyundai benchmarked the Lexus LS500 which makes the G90 look 5-6 years old in design. I look at the interior, the screens look fantastic but the HVAC lacks modern styling. Also the interior door panels do not look modern and contemporary with the large piece of wood on the door. For some reason, there is a hideous 4WD badge or it is supposed to be Awd on the rear that reminded me of badging from the 1980s
Also, the door handles were all stuck in the open position (or is it supposed to be that way)
Also, the door handles were all stuck in the open position (or is it supposed to be that way)
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 01-13-23 at 10:01 AM.
#653
I thought this was interesting, and I went back and watched a few, and its not true. He rated the W223 S580 at the same 68.5 dB and he rated the W222 S560 at a quieter 68.0 dB. G12 7 Series was also 68.5 dB. I thought his comment was dubious because I had heard him rate cars at that sound pressure before.
Its very impressive, but saying its the quietest car in the segment isn't accurate by his own measurements.
Its very impressive, but saying its the quietest car in the segment isn't accurate by his own measurements.
#654
That test might have just been his own subjective impressions, or there's something else he isn't telling us (i.e. different road conditions). Alex's numbers have always been a bit questionable, especially when it comes to other aspects like acceleration. He's the only journalist I'm even aware of that has gotten the LS500 from 0-60 in under 5 seconds, something he also mentioned in this video.
#656
That test might have just been his own subjective impressions, or there's something else he isn't telling us (i.e. different road conditions). Alex's numbers have always been a bit questionable, especially when it comes to other aspects like acceleration. He's the only journalist I'm even aware of that has gotten the LS500 from 0-60 in under 5 seconds, something he also mentioned in this video.
#658
#659
Ah got ya. Alex gets a little too excited for Hyundai products. Likes to promote them, but it all has to do with demographics on his channel. I doubt the G90 is quieter than the LS
#660
Oh I’m sure it’s much quieter than the LS500. The LS500 isn’t very quiet. LS460 my guess is it’s about the same.