Different shifting designs
12-02-21, 07:53 AM
#1
Different shifting designs
Buttons. Rotary *****. Column stalks. Glowing orbs. Monostable joysticks and more
Transmission shifters have come in all shapes, sizes and locations since the beginning of time. Even manual transmissions could be had with shifters on the steering column ("three on the tree") in addition to the usual "stick shift" that grew out of the floor or center console, but it's obviously the automatic that has enjoyed the widest array of shifting options. The PRND shift order used to be assured, with the most common variants being a big fat stalk mounted on the steering column, or some sort of stick sprouting from the center console. Sometimes that stick needed you to first press a button to move, sometimes it needed to make its way through gates.
Now, there was occasionally some experimentation over the years with pushbutton shifters, especially in the 1950s and '60s, but for the most part, drivers in recent decades didn't really need to think too much when going from car to car. And then the electronic shifter became commonplace. Free from the need to be physically connected to the transmission, they allow designers and engineers to create new, novel ways to select Park, Reverse and Drive. Usually, what they come up with are just examples of being different for the sake of being different. When properly utilized, however, there is an actual advantage to them: they take up less space (or none at all) on the center console, which allows for bigger cupholders, additional storage or infotainment controls. It's pretty obvious which of the below shifters do a better job of this space efficiency than others, as well as which fall into that "different for different sake" category.
Now, there was occasionally some experimentation over the years with pushbutton shifters, especially in the 1950s and '60s, but for the most part, drivers in recent decades didn't really need to think too much when going from car to car. And then the electronic shifter became commonplace. Free from the need to be physically connected to the transmission, they allow designers and engineers to create new, novel ways to select Park, Reverse and Drive. Usually, what they come up with are just examples of being different for the sake of being different. When properly utilized, however, there is an actual advantage to them: they take up less space (or none at all) on the center console, which allows for bigger cupholders, additional storage or infotainment controls. It's pretty obvious which of the below shifters do a better job of this space efficiency than others, as well as which fall into that "different for different sake" category.
The Ubiquitous Monostable Shifter
BMW
We're mostly going alphabetically here, but it's fitting that BMW goes first as it was one of the first brands to introduce and popularize what has become the most common type of electronic transmission shifter. Roughly akin to a joystick, the term "monostable" indicates that no matter which direction you push or pull it, it returns to its original position. In most cases, you push forward through a detent to get to Reverse and back through a detent to get Drive. In the case of BMW, you then slide it laterally to find a separate "gate" devoted to up and down manual shifting. This functionality has remained the same over the years even if BMW has changed the **** design. It also set a precedent for other brands.
We're mostly going alphabetically here, but it's fitting that BMW goes first as it was one of the first brands to introduce and popularize what has become the most common type of electronic transmission shifter. Roughly akin to a joystick, the term "monostable" indicates that no matter which direction you push or pull it, it returns to its original position. In most cases, you push forward through a detent to get to Reverse and back through a detent to get Drive. In the case of BMW, you then slide it laterally to find a separate "gate" devoted to up and down manual shifting. This functionality has remained the same over the years even if BMW has changed the **** design. It also set a precedent for other brands.
Alfa Romeo
This works exactly the same as BMW's. It was upgraded to have a nicer piece of hardware for 2021 complete with a little Italian flag at its base. Ciao!
This works exactly the same as BMW's. It was upgraded to have a nicer piece of hardware for 2021 complete with a little Italian flag at its base. Ciao!
Audi
The monostable found on many Audis (above left) works similar to BMW's but the shift **** design is quite different. It usually doubles as a place to rest your arm while using a touchscreen.
The monostable found on many Audis (above left) works similar to BMW's but the shift **** design is quite different. It usually doubles as a place to rest your arm while using a touchscreen.
GM
Found in Cadillacs in particular, this monostable above left works basically the same as BMW's. Earlier versions had an unusual dogleg design for Reverse that made you push up and to the left to engage. This was supposedly for safety, but was confusing. Above right you can see the new 2022 Silverado has a monostable that would seem to function the same but has a more Audi-like design.
Found in Cadillacs in particular, this monostable above left works basically the same as BMW's. Earlier versions had an unusual dogleg design for Reverse that made you push up and to the left to engage. This was supposedly for safety, but was confusing. Above right you can see the new 2022 Silverado has a monostable that would seem to function the same but has a more Audi-like design.
Jaguar
The Jaguar F-Type has always had a cool monostable shifter that felt like the butt of a futuristic space gun in your hand. It gradually spread throughout the Jaguar-Land Rover lineup, frequently replacing the old rotary shifter. Unfortunately, the space gun is being replaced in all Jaguars but the F-Type with this nobby little sledge instead. Boo.
The Jaguar F-Type has always had a cool monostable shifter that felt like the butt of a futuristic space gun in your hand. It gradually spread throughout the Jaguar-Land Rover lineup, frequently replacing the old rotary shifter. Unfortunately, the space gun is being replaced in all Jaguars but the F-Type with this nobby little sledge instead. Boo.
Land Rover
Land Rover uses monostables, but has different *****. The Defender's unique, dash-mounted **** is shaped like a bent nail, while the Discovery and new Range Rover get the nobby little sledge (or "palm shifter") shared with corporate sibling Jaguar.
Land Rover uses monostables, but has different *****. The Defender's unique, dash-mounted **** is shaped like a bent nail, while the Discovery and new Range Rover get the nobby little sledge (or "palm shifter") shared with corporate sibling Jaguar.
Mercedes-AMG
The Mercedes-AMG GT coupe and sedan both feature a monostable shifter on the center console, versus the column-mounted shifter found on all other Mercedes (see below). Its small size puts in on the border between this category on the next, mini monostable category.
The Mercedes-AMG GT coupe and sedan both feature a monostable shifter on the center console, versus the column-mounted shifter found on all other Mercedes (see below). Its small size puts in on the border between this category on the next, mini monostable category.
Mini
The electric Mini Cooper SE has a monostable shifter that works the same as those in parent company BMW's cars. The **** is different, though.
The electric Mini Cooper SE has a monostable shifter that works the same as those in parent company BMW's cars. The **** is different, though.
Nissan and Infiniti
The new Nissan shifter, found in the Rogue and show above left, is a monostable design. It's a bit smaller than the norm, but not quite to the same level as the mini variants shown below. Sister company Infiniti also uses a monostable in its QX50 and QX55, shown above right, but it's a heftier, higher-quality piece that also locates the Park button separate of the **** itself (which is annoying).
The new Nissan shifter, found in the Rogue and show above left, is a monostable design. It's a bit smaller than the norm, but not quite to the same level as the mini variants shown below. Sister company Infiniti also uses a monostable in its QX50 and QX55, shown above right, but it's a heftier, higher-quality piece that also locates the Park button separate of the **** itself (which is annoying).
Volvo and Polestar
Electrified corporate cousins of Volvo and Polestar share a common monostable shifter unit, but the ***** differ. Range-topping Volvos get a **** furnished out of Orrefors crystal. Fancy. The Polestar shifter works the same, but instead of crystal, there's a hole in it. Wacky.
Electrified corporate cousins of Volvo and Polestar share a common monostable shifter unit, but the ***** differ. Range-topping Volvos get a **** furnished out of Orrefors crystal. Fancy. The Polestar shifter works the same, but instead of crystal, there's a hole in it. Wacky.
The Miniature Monostable
Audi
Audi, like other Volkswagen Group brands, has introduced a sort of Monostable Mini that broadly functions in the same Forward/Reverse and Back/Drive orientation, but it uses a variety of weird, tiny, nub-like controls. We don't really like them, mostly because they look unsubstantial and a bit lame. The Audi S3 is above left, the Audi e-Tron GT is above right.
Audi, like other Volkswagen Group brands, has introduced a sort of Monostable Mini that broadly functions in the same Forward/Reverse and Back/Drive orientation, but it uses a variety of weird, tiny, nub-like controls. We don't really like them, mostly because they look unsubstantial and a bit lame. The Audi S3 is above left, the Audi e-Tron GT is above right.
Audi e-Tron
Yet another Audi take on the monostable. You still push forward for Reverse and pull back for Drive, but here, the shifter is effectively flopped on its side and operated with your thumb (Reverse) or index finger (Drive).
Yet another Audi take on the monostable. You still push forward for Reverse and pull back for Drive, but here, the shifter is effectively flopped on its side and operated with your thumb (Reverse) or index finger (Drive).
Porsche
This is basically the same as what you'll find elsewhere in the Volkswagen Group, but it just looks extra-dopey in Porsche. Even if a shifter is rarely used in an automatic Porsche, there's something so unsubstantial and unrewarding about using this little tab. It's located on the center console in the 911 (above left) and on the dash in the Taycan (above right). Other Porsches have more traditional automatic shifters.
This is basically the same as what you'll find elsewhere in the Volkswagen Group, but it just looks extra-dopey in Porsche. Even if a shifter is rarely used in an automatic Porsche, there's something so unsubstantial and unrewarding about using this little tab. It's located on the center console in the 911 (above left) and on the dash in the Taycan (above right). Other Porsches have more traditional automatic shifters.
Volkswagen
Again, pretty much the same nub deal as what you'll get in an Audi or Porsche, but in a Volkswagen. Also, again, in a performance vehicle like a GTI (left) and Golf R (right), it just seems a bit lame.
Again, pretty much the same nub deal as what you'll get in an Audi or Porsche, but in a Volkswagen. Also, again, in a performance vehicle like a GTI (left) and Golf R (right), it just seems a bit lame.
The Rotary PRND
Chrysler Pacifica, Jeep Grand Cherokee and Wagoneer, Most Ram Trucks
This simple rotary design basically replaces the north-south PRND shift **** and replaces it with an east-west ****. It also saves space by allowing for a dash-mounted placement, thereby keeping the center console area open in both the Pacifica and six-passenger Ram. It just looks fancy in the new Grand Cherokee and Wagoneer.
This simple rotary design basically replaces the north-south PRND shift **** and replaces it with an east-west ****. It also saves space by allowing for a dash-mounted placement, thereby keeping the center console area open in both the Pacifica and six-passenger Ram. It just looks fancy in the new Grand Cherokee and Wagoneer.
Ford
The rotary shifter has been found throughout the Ford lineup for nearly a decade now, albeit with variously different **** hardware. This one is slightly different, in that there aren't hard detents "at the end" of its travel for Park and Drive. The "P" lights up to let you know you're in Park, but you can keep twirling the dial past that point. According to Ford engineer Leeway Ho, "Our extensive customer research showed that users understand 'P' and 'D' as the two end points and the most commonly used positions ... so they just twirl freely and know there’s no danger of overshooting their desired position, which is what a physical stop prevents. A quick rotation of the wrist without discreetly counting indentations will put the car into 'P' or 'D,' depending upon which way you’re rotating, without the harsh endstop you would encounter otherwise. In addition, the customer will see Park position in the cluster, and the car provides a subtle audible feedback when you’ve selected 'P.'”
The rotary shifter has been found throughout the Ford lineup for nearly a decade now, albeit with variously different **** hardware. This one is slightly different, in that there aren't hard detents "at the end" of its travel for Park and Drive. The "P" lights up to let you know you're in Park, but you can keep twirling the dial past that point. According to Ford engineer Leeway Ho, "Our extensive customer research showed that users understand 'P' and 'D' as the two end points and the most commonly used positions ... so they just twirl freely and know there’s no danger of overshooting their desired position, which is what a physical stop prevents. A quick rotation of the wrist without discreetly counting indentations will put the car into 'P' or 'D,' depending upon which way you’re rotating, without the harsh endstop you would encounter otherwise. In addition, the customer will see Park position in the cluster, and the car provides a subtle audible feedback when you’ve selected 'P.'”
The Rotary Monostable
Genesis
Genesis utilizes a rotary shifter, but its functionality differs from those of the others. It's vaguely similar in concept to the monostable where you twist left for Reverse and twist right for Drive. You then press the Park button in the middle. Of course, the Genesis GV70 (above right) complicates things by adding a second **** of virtually the same size adjacent to it that controls the infotainment system. In the G80 and GV80 (above left), the infotainment controller is more like an old iPod flush-mounted scroll wheel.
Genesis utilizes a rotary shifter, but its functionality differs from those of the others. It's vaguely similar in concept to the monostable where you twist left for Reverse and twist right for Drive. You then press the Park button in the middle. Of course, the Genesis GV70 (above right) complicates things by adding a second **** of virtually the same size adjacent to it that controls the infotainment system. In the G80 and GV80 (above left), the infotainment controller is more like an old iPod flush-mounted scroll wheel.
The Rotary Glowing Orb
Genesis GV60
The rotary "Crystal Sphere" shifter of the new electric GV60 selects a gear in the same method as the other Genesis rotary shifters: twist left for Reverse, twist right for Drive, press button for park. But, there's a wrinkle. When parked, a glowing glass hemisphere with an intricate lattice pattern sits on the center console. The lighting within can be customized with dozens of preset colors (or a hue of your own choosing) to match the ambient lighting on the doors and dash. When you've authenticated yourself as the driver, the orb flips over to reveal the ornate rotary gear selector. Genesis claims it's actually a safety feature because you'll clearly know when the car is actually on. That can be an issue in a car without an internal combustion engine, but any claim that a fanciful electronic shifter is a safety feature does seem dubious.
The rotary "Crystal Sphere" shifter of the new electric GV60 selects a gear in the same method as the other Genesis rotary shifters: twist left for Reverse, twist right for Drive, press button for park. But, there's a wrinkle. When parked, a glowing glass hemisphere with an intricate lattice pattern sits on the center console. The lighting within can be customized with dozens of preset colors (or a hue of your own choosing) to match the ambient lighting on the doors and dash. When you've authenticated yourself as the driver, the orb flips over to reveal the ornate rotary gear selector. Genesis claims it's actually a safety feature because you'll clearly know when the car is actually on. That can be an issue in a car without an internal combustion engine, but any claim that a fanciful electronic shifter is a safety feature does seem dubious.
12-02-21, 07:53 AM
#2
Continued part II
The Column Shifter 2.0
Mercedes-Benz
Mercedes was one of the earliest automakers to widely adopt electronic shifters, and immediately seized upon their advantage of freeing up center console space by removing it from the center console altogether. Virtually every Mercedes, apart from select AMG models, has an electronic column shifter. It works a bit like a monostable on its side: flip up for Reverse, flip down for Drive and press the button on the end for Park. Pretty simple. It can take a bit to remember where the shifter went, but once you do, it immediately becomes second nature. In fact, after swapping out of a Mercedes test vehicle and into something else, it's quite common for us to turn on the new car's windshield wipers when trying to put the car into Drive.
We do not have a photo of it, but the Lucid Air uses a similar shifter design, likely because of the precedent set by our next entry.
Mercedes was one of the earliest automakers to widely adopt electronic shifters, and immediately seized upon their advantage of freeing up center console space by removing it from the center console altogether. Virtually every Mercedes, apart from select AMG models, has an electronic column shifter. It works a bit like a monostable on its side: flip up for Reverse, flip down for Drive and press the button on the end for Park. Pretty simple. It can take a bit to remember where the shifter went, but once you do, it immediately becomes second nature. In fact, after swapping out of a Mercedes test vehicle and into something else, it's quite common for us to turn on the new car's windshield wipers when trying to put the car into Drive.
We do not have a photo of it, but the Lucid Air uses a similar shifter design, likely because of the precedent set by our next entry.
Tesla
Tesla originally used the same shifter design and hardware as Mercedes, but eventually moved on to unique pieces of hardware. Tesla is moving away from such physical hardware entirely, however. Keep on reading.
Tesla originally used the same shifter design and hardware as Mercedes, but eventually moved on to unique pieces of hardware. Tesla is moving away from such physical hardware entirely, however. Keep on reading.
The Button Shifters
Aston Martin
Aston has used button-activated automatic transmission shifters since the DB9, which basically had the same setup as the DBX (above left). The Vantage has its buttons arranged in a triangle low on the center stack.
Aston has used button-activated automatic transmission shifters since the DB9, which basically had the same setup as the DBX (above left). The Vantage has its buttons arranged in a triangle low on the center stack.
Hyundai
At present, there are two types of button-reliant shifters offered by Hyundai. The one above left is found in the Palisade, Tucson and Sonata. The other, above right, is essentially Hyundai's first go at a button shifter and found in the Ioniq Electric.
At present, there are two types of button-reliant shifters offered by Hyundai. The one above left is found in the Palisade, Tucson and Sonata. The other, above right, is essentially Hyundai's first go at a button shifter and found in the Ioniq Electric.
Jaguar I-Pace
The electric I-Pace is the outlier in the Jag lineup with its button-operated shifter.
The electric I-Pace is the outlier in the Jag lineup with its button-operated shifter.
The Push-and-Pull Button Shifters
Honda / Acura
The electronic shifter found in most Hondas and Acuras is a common button design. You push buttons for Park, Neutral and Drive, then pull up on a tab-like control for Reverse. The ergonomics of this shifter greatly depend on its placement. The closer it is to where your hand would naturally rest in the car, as in the Acura TLX above left, the more natural it is to use. In the CR-V, above right, not so much.
The electronic shifter found in most Hondas and Acuras is a common button design. You push buttons for Park, Neutral and Drive, then pull up on a tab-like control for Reverse. The ergonomics of this shifter greatly depend on its placement. The closer it is to where your hand would naturally rest in the car, as in the Acura TLX above left, the more natural it is to use. In the CR-V, above right, not so much.
GM Variant 1: Console Mounted
This new push-and-pull button shifter design, found in the 2022 Chevy Bolt (above left) and Buick Envision (above right) among others, is similar to Honda's design but you pull for both Reverse and Drive.
This new push-and-pull button shifter design, found in the 2022 Chevy Bolt (above left) and Buick Envision (above right) among others, is similar to Honda's design but you pull for both Reverse and Drive.
GM Variant 2: Corvette
The Corvette shifter is similar to the others above, but is a different piece of hardware.
The Corvette shifter is similar to the others above, but is a different piece of hardware.
GM Variant 3: The GMC Terrain
One of our least favorite shifters, this is pure "different for different sake." Although the button design was updated (seen above right) from its original hardware (above left), the functionality remains. Push for Park and Neutral. Pull for Reverse and Drive. Bizarrely, push buttons for + or - gears. This thing also takes up a needlessly excessive amount of space and isn't ergonomic to use. Silliness.
One of our least favorite shifters, this is pure "different for different sake." Although the button design was updated (seen above right) from its original hardware (above left), the functionality remains. Push for Park and Neutral. Pull for Reverse and Drive. Bizarrely, push buttons for + or - gears. This thing also takes up a needlessly excessive amount of space and isn't ergonomic to use. Silliness.
GM Variant 4: Full-Size SUVs
Found in the Chevy Tahoe and Yukon, this is the same design as the Terrain's, but flipped on its side to be a better ergonomic fit for your hand and placed in a closer, more sensible location between the steering wheel and infotainment screen.
Found in the Chevy Tahoe and Yukon, this is the same design as the Terrain's, but flipped on its side to be a better ergonomic fit for your hand and placed in a closer, more sensible location between the steering wheel and infotainment screen.
The Piano Keys
Lincoln
Only Lincoln does this. For a while, the brand used buttons stacked laterally adjacent to the central touchscreen. Then, with the Navigator, it introduced the current shifter design that is most comparable to piano keys. It's simple enough to work, if a bit silly.
Only Lincoln does this. For a while, the brand used buttons stacked laterally adjacent to the central touchscreen. Then, with the Navigator, it introduced the current shifter design that is most comparable to piano keys. It's simple enough to work, if a bit silly.
The Nub
Toyota Prius
We break away from our normal alphabetical listing here to highlight the car that basically introduced the world to electronic shifters. And it did so with "the nub." This squat little doo-dad introduced for the second-generation Prius (the first one that was actually popular) and mounted to its dash is literally a monostable, but differs from the BMW-established norm by requiring you to slide it left and then up for Reverse, or left and then down for Drive. Some versions, as in the case of the Prius, have a B function that replicates engine-braking while going down hill.
We break away from our normal alphabetical listing here to highlight the car that basically introduced the world to electronic shifters. And it did so with "the nub." This squat little doo-dad introduced for the second-generation Prius (the first one that was actually popular) and mounted to its dash is literally a monostable, but differs from the BMW-established norm by requiring you to slide it left and then up for Reverse, or left and then down for Drive. Some versions, as in the case of the Prius, have a B function that replicates engine-braking while going down hill.
Nissan Leaf
Clearly inspired by the Prius, the Nissan Leaf debuted with a flying saucer-shaped shifter that operated in the same way as the Prius nub (minus B mode). It survived to the second-generation Leaf, pictured above.
Clearly inspired by the Prius, the Nissan Leaf debuted with a flying saucer-shaped shifter that operated in the same way as the Prius nub (minus B mode). It survived to the second-generation Leaf, pictured above.
Lexus
The new Lexus NX and Lexus LC have a variation of the Prius "nub," even if the models in question aren't hybrids. The **** aren't as nubby, but they functional the same. Left and up for Reverse; left and down for Drive. A Sport transmission mode replaces B when you slide it back.
The new Lexus NX and Lexus LC have a variation of the Prius "nub," even if the models in question aren't hybrids. The **** aren't as nubby, but they functional the same. Left and up for Reverse; left and down for Drive. A Sport transmission mode replaces B when you slide it back.
The Touchscreen / Telepathy
Tesla
When the Tesla Model S recently received it's first major refresh, the big news was the adoption of a yoke instead of a steering wheel. Somewhat buried by that news was that Tesla's previous, Mercedes-like, column-mounted electronic shifter would be replaced by a swiping motion on the touchscreen. Actually, that's not quite accurate. That functionality was intended to be the "override." According to Tesla CEO Elon Musk, the "car guesses drive direction based on what obstacles it sees, context and nav map." In other words, it should automatically just figure out which direction you want to go. Like, telepathy? In any event, none of the above seems like a good idea. You can see why that might be the case, at least in terms of the yoke and touchscreen shifter, thanks to Motor Trend's Christian Seabaugh and his attempt at a multi-point turn. Hey, maybe it would've gone better if he just let the car read his mind.
When the Tesla Model S recently received it's first major refresh, the big news was the adoption of a yoke instead of a steering wheel. Somewhat buried by that news was that Tesla's previous, Mercedes-like, column-mounted electronic shifter would be replaced by a swiping motion on the touchscreen. Actually, that's not quite accurate. That functionality was intended to be the "override." According to Tesla CEO Elon Musk, the "car guesses drive direction based on what obstacles it sees, context and nav map." In other words, it should automatically just figure out which direction you want to go. Like, telepathy? In any event, none of the above seems like a good idea. You can see why that might be the case, at least in terms of the yoke and touchscreen shifter, thanks to Motor Trend's Christian Seabaugh and his attempt at a multi-point turn. Hey, maybe it would've gone better if he just let the car read his mind.
12-02-21, 08:06 AM
#3
Lexus Fanatic
GM had yet another design, that was used in several vehicles (my Lacrosse had one) where Reverse was up and to the left, and the lever itself snapped back to the center position each time you moved it.....the gear position was by a light. I got more or less used to it after a couple of weeks, but never liked it. For manual range, you moved the lever the same way (down) to get both in and out of it.....completely unintuitive.
I'm convinced that this is one of the reasons that this generation of Lacrosse sold so poorly.....not necessarily that people wanted to move away from large Buick sedans, which, before this generation, always sold well. GM's marketers misinterpreted what was happening and canned the vehicle in the U.S. market instead, when they should have simply used a better shifter.
In the Encore GX I now have, they did it correctly.............
I'm convinced that this is one of the reasons that this generation of Lacrosse sold so poorly.....not necessarily that people wanted to move away from large Buick sedans, which, before this generation, always sold well. GM's marketers misinterpreted what was happening and canned the vehicle in the U.S. market instead, when they should have simply used a better shifter.
In the Encore GX I now have, they did it correctly.............
Last edited by mmarshall; 12-02-21 at 08:16 AM.
12-02-21, 08:18 AM
#5
Lexus Fanatic
Yep.
12-02-21, 08:21 AM
#6
Lexus Fanatic
Agree that all these different shifter designs are ridiculous.
12-02-21, 08:57 AM
#7
Lexus Test Driver
I refuse to buy any car without a normal shifter.
Buttons or dials are not good for this purpose especially if you need to make a quick U turn, last thing i want is to be looking down to find a damn button. In that time, you can get T-boned.
They messed up the shifter and now on to the steering wheel.
Every automaker is going to have their own version of a Tesla yoke wheel or some other useless shape.
Buttons or dials are not good for this purpose especially if you need to make a quick U turn, last thing i want is to be looking down to find a damn button. In that time, you can get T-boned.
They messed up the shifter and now on to the steering wheel.
Every automaker is going to have their own version of a Tesla yoke wheel or some other useless shape.
Last edited by RNM GS3; 12-02-21 at 09:02 AM.
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12-02-21, 09:11 AM
#8
drives cars
I've owned cars with several types of shifters: column shifter, PRNDL/S straight, weird Toyota/Lexus PRNDL/S zig-zag, BMW-style mono-stable... and I have driven those with nubs and rotary dials. I have to say, the classic PRNDL layout like in your Encore GX is the favorite. It takes minimal effort while still retaining a mechanical connection unlike the mono-stable shifters like in BMWs. I think my favorite shifting action in cars I've owned was in the VWs. However, I do confess I have a weird soft spot for the gated/zig-zaggy pattern in the Lexus because it feels very heavy duty, if you will. Some might say it's heavy and clunky, though. 
12-02-21, 09:28 AM
#9
Super Moderator
That said, if your concern is switching quickly between R and D without looking, you should prefer the Monostable design. In addition to having a shorter throw to achieve the desired result, it's literally impossible to overshoot and wind up in Park, no matter how much you rush.I like the monostable in our Audi better than any automatic shifter I've ever used, except for the PDK handle in a Boxter GTS I rented a few years ago.
12-02-21, 10:09 AM
#10
Lexus Fanatic
I refuse to buy any car without a normal shifter.
Buttons or dials are not good for this purpose especially if you need to make a quick U turn, last thing i want is to be looking down to find a damn button. In that time, you can get T-boned.
They messed up the shifter and now on to the steering wheel.
Every automaker is going to have their own version of a Tesla yoke wheel or some other useless shape.
Buttons or dials are not good for this purpose especially if you need to make a quick U turn, last thing i want is to be looking down to find a damn button. In that time, you can get T-boned.
They messed up the shifter and now on to the steering wheel.
Every automaker is going to have their own version of a Tesla yoke wheel or some other useless shape.
12-02-21, 10:10 AM
#11
Out of all of the general shifter designs shown in the OP, I think I'd prefer the monostable shifter the most. That said, I'm glad my car still has the regular PRND shifter like mmarshall's Encore GX - I'd take this shifter over any other in a heartbeat.
I also liked the gated shifter in my IS250, just because I liked not having to push a button on the lever to move it. And I also liked the column shifter on my mom's 2nd gen Grand Caravan because it was out of the way.
I also liked the gated shifter in my IS250, just because I liked not having to push a button on the lever to move it. And I also liked the column shifter on my mom's 2nd gen Grand Caravan because it was out of the way.
12-02-21, 10:13 AM
#12
Lexus Fanatic
Vast majority of those look dreadful. The stalk shifter is okay at least doesn't take up much room did Tesla steal their design from Mercedes? Or is that a parts bin Mercedes part.
12-02-21, 10:25 AM
#13
Lexus Champion
I'm in the minority - I have a BMW with the joystick style shifter, and I love it. I'd rather not have buttons, but I wouldn't let it stop me from buying a car I want.
12-02-21, 10:27 AM
#14
Lexus Champion
I refuse to buy any car without a normal shifter.
Buttons or dials are not good for this purpose especially if you need to make a quick U turn, last thing i want is to be looking down to find a damn button. In that time, you can get T-boned.
They messed up the shifter and now on to the steering wheel.
Every automaker is going to have their own version of a Tesla yoke wheel or some other useless shape.
Buttons or dials are not good for this purpose especially if you need to make a quick U turn, last thing i want is to be looking down to find a damn button. In that time, you can get T-boned.
They messed up the shifter and now on to the steering wheel.
Every automaker is going to have their own version of a Tesla yoke wheel or some other useless shape.
12-02-21, 10:34 AM
#15
Lexus Test Driver
Stuck in downtown Brooklyn yesterday at night, traffic not moving.
Needed to make U-turn to go another route.
Also yesterday, looking for parking at meter. Saw one open up on the other side, quick U turn. This was Atlantic Ave next to Barclays Center so you NEED to be quick!!
I don’t take my eyes off the road which i would have to do if it was a button.
This also applies to parallel parking on busy streets- you have to be quick and never want to take your eyes off side mirrors.
Last edited by RNM GS3; 12-02-21 at 10:38 AM.