Lower vehicle prices may (?) require life-style changes from consumers.
12-20-21 | 07:23 PM
#121
Having STUFF that needs maintenance and care and to be paid for weighs you down. It creates stress and burden, requires an individual to continue to earn a certain amount of money to continue to pay for and purchase more stuff which in turn has to be cared for and maintained. There's something to be said for a simple life without a lot of stuff to worry about.
For instance, lets say I wanted to go away for a month...or to leave my career and do something entirely different which was much less financially lucrative, I can't do that because of all of this stuff.
For instance, lets say I wanted to go away for a month...or to leave my career and do something entirely different which was much less financially lucrative, I can't do that because of all of this stuff.
12-20-21 | 07:25 PM
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There is all kinds of information out there about minimalism.
To be clear, I have no interest in that, I like
my life the way it is but I do see where they are coming from. I have made many choices in my life that in fact do cause me a lot of stress. Sizable home with a yard, kids, high stress career, people all over my life that depend on me both professionally, personally, financially, dog, expensive lifestyle that needs to be maintained…I’m responsible for a lot and life would be a lot simpler without any of it.
12-20-21 | 07:27 PM
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Oh totally, I completely agree.
12-20-21 | 07:43 PM
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One of my friends who is my age, is single, no kids, inherited apartment so no mortgage etc. Not into cars has paid off older Camry. Its just a different lifestyle.
All about finding a balance but hard if you have kids, home and lots of responsibility.
The last time i had a vacation of more than a week at a time was back in college and even when you’re off, the emails/phone still need to be answered as clients call. As you get older, its much more difficult to get away from everything. I wish i can take 1 month break and then come back to regular life but it’s impossible lol.
All about finding a balance but hard if you have kids, home and lots of responsibility.
The last time i had a vacation of more than a week at a time was back in college and even when you’re off, the emails/phone still need to be answered as clients call. As you get older, its much more difficult to get away from everything. I wish i can take 1 month break and then come back to regular life but it’s impossible lol.
12-20-21 | 07:48 PM
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But that’s painful to do, there are a lot of mental blocks that make it difficult to do that. You’re better off living simply from the get go.
There is all kinds of information out there about minimalism.
To be clear, I have no interest in that, I like
my life the way it is but I do see where they are coming from. I have made many choices in my life that in fact do cause me a lot of stress. Sizable home with a yard, kids, high stress career, people all over my life that depend on me both professionally, personally, financially, dog, expensive lifestyle that needs to be maintained…I’m responsible for a lot and life would be a lot simpler without any of it.
There is all kinds of information out there about minimalism.
To be clear, I have no interest in that, I like
my life the way it is but I do see where they are coming from. I have made many choices in my life that in fact do cause me a lot of stress. Sizable home with a yard, kids, high stress career, people all over my life that depend on me both professionally, personally, financially, dog, expensive lifestyle that needs to be maintained…I’m responsible for a lot and life would be a lot simpler without any of it.
12-20-21 | 08:01 PM
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Not only that, but, the last thing you want is to be away for a month, with no one at home, and have a leak start in one of the pipes, or maybe have a bird or animal invade your attic and start leaving droppings, that is not detected for weeks. There are a lot of advantages to being home most of the time....besides saving money.
12-20-21 | 08:03 PM
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It's also something to think about that, the last thing you want is to be away for a month, with no one at home, and have a leak start in one of the pipes, or maybe have a bird or animal invade your attic and start leaving droppings, that is not detected for weeks. There are a lot of advantages to being home most of the time....besides saving money.
12-20-21 | 08:06 PM
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12-20-21 | 08:06 PM
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One of my friends who is my age, is single, no kids, inherited apartment so no mortgage etc. Not into cars has paid off older Camry. Its just a different lifestyle.
All about finding a balance but hard if you have kids, home and lots of responsibility.
The last time i had a vacation of more than a week at a time was back in college and even when you’re off, the emails/phone still need to be answered as clients call. As you get older, its much more difficult to get away from everything. I wish i can take 1 month break and then come back to regular life but it’s impossible lol.
All about finding a balance but hard if you have kids, home and lots of responsibility.
The last time i had a vacation of more than a week at a time was back in college and even when you’re off, the emails/phone still need to be answered as clients call. As you get older, its much more difficult to get away from everything. I wish i can take 1 month break and then come back to regular life but it’s impossible lol.
Haha, the best!
You just have to make sure your sprinklers (if you have them) are on a separate valve.
12-20-21 | 08:09 PM
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This is somewhat odd, but even so, I generally have a high opinion of Consumer Reports, and, according to them, right now, ALL of the most highly-inflated over-MSRP prices are on Kia and Hyundai products. Not quite sure I believe it......but this magazine generally has good info.
https://www.consumerreports.org/buyi...s-a3991316773/
By Jeff S. Bartlett
Updated December 17, 2021
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If you have your heart set on buying a new car this year, be prepared to pay significantly more for some models—or choose one that isn’t in high demand.
Inflation, parts shortages, and a recovering economy have all thrown a wrench into the auto industry, putting a severe strain on the new-car market. So forget about saving money off the sticker price on many popular cars, SUVs, and trucks. Some are so hard to come by that consumers are paying well above the sticker price for them. That includes must-have models like hybrids and electrics, and those essential for business, such as heavy-duty pickup trucks.
In fact, the average price for new cars has climbed thousands in the past year, reaching over $46,329 in November 2021, according to Kelley Blue Book.
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Trade-In Value EstimatorIn some cases, you might think it’s worth the extra money for your dream vehicle, even if it means greater depreciation over time. For other vehicles, it may be better to seek a suitable, more plentiful alternative.
Below we present the 10 cars, minivans, and SUVs that are selling the most over the sticker price, starting with the highest and using specific trims as examples. Again, Hyundai and Kia dominate the list. All highlighted models are from the 2022 model year.
CR members will see ratings highlights and detailed pricing on specific trims and configurations. Keep in mind that this list doesn’t factor in Consumer Reports’ recommendations, nor do we endorse paying such premiums on a new car.
Just beyond these 10 models, there are several others transacting at 16 percent or more over MSRP, including (in rank order) the Chevrolet Spark, Ford Maverick, and Nissan Frontier.
Of course, local pricing may differ. You can see the transaction prices for these and every other mainstream vehicle from the model pages at CR.org/cars.
Also see the best deals on new cars and new SUVs now, and browse the list of the most discounted cars.
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https://www.consumerreports.org/buyi...s-a3991316773/
The Worst Deals on New Cars Right Now
Some models are so hard to come by that consumers are paying well above the sticker price for themBy Jeff S. Bartlett
Updated December 17, 2021
Photo: Kia
If you have your heart set on buying a new car this year, be prepared to pay significantly more for some models—or choose one that isn’t in high demand.
Inflation, parts shortages, and a recovering economy have all thrown a wrench into the auto industry, putting a severe strain on the new-car market. So forget about saving money off the sticker price on many popular cars, SUVs, and trucks. Some are so hard to come by that consumers are paying well above the sticker price for them. That includes must-have models like hybrids and electrics, and those essential for business, such as heavy-duty pickup trucks.
In fact, the average price for new cars has climbed thousands in the past year, reaching over $46,329 in November 2021, according to Kelley Blue Book.
MORE ON CAR BUYING
Best New Car Deals
Best Deals on SUVs You Can Buy Right Now
The Most Discounted New Cars Right Now
Global Chip Shortage Makes It Tough to Buy Certain Cars
Trade-In Value EstimatorIn some cases, you might think it’s worth the extra money for your dream vehicle, even if it means greater depreciation over time. For other vehicles, it may be better to seek a suitable, more plentiful alternative.
Below we present the 10 cars, minivans, and SUVs that are selling the most over the sticker price, starting with the highest and using specific trims as examples. Again, Hyundai and Kia dominate the list. All highlighted models are from the 2022 model year.
CR members will see ratings highlights and detailed pricing on specific trims and configurations. Keep in mind that this list doesn’t factor in Consumer Reports’ recommendations, nor do we endorse paying such premiums on a new car.
Just beyond these 10 models, there are several others transacting at 16 percent or more over MSRP, including (in rank order) the Chevrolet Spark, Ford Maverick, and Nissan Frontier.
Of course, local pricing may differ. You can see the transaction prices for these and every other mainstream vehicle from the model pages at CR.org/cars.
Also see the best deals on new cars and new SUVs now, and browse the list of the most discounted cars.
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12-20-21 | 08:15 PM
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