anyone else not excited about any new non-EV vehicles these days?
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anyone else not excited about any new non-EV vehicles these days?
i talk to friends and relatives who are all interested in getting an EV as their next vehicle.
vast r&d money is now being poured into EVs.
from EV reviews, it's clear they're quiet, handle great, are VERY versatile, and for people who can charge at home, there's little if any down side, except maybe for long trips in certain places, but even that 'issue' will fade as tons of new charge stations come online and charging gets faster and range gets better.
remember getting excited about that raucous new sports car? with all that sound came 'great' performance, for its time. now most EVs laugh and say "not impressed".
easy to forget about VW in the u.s. but they're a vast manufacturer and they are going crazy trying to launch EVs across their brands.
the ford f-150 lightning is BY FAR Ford's most important upcoming vehicle introduction.
Rivian, Tesla, Lucid with huge valuations and sucking most of the media oxygen.
Toyota has just done a giant "don't forget about us" presentation that was largely hot air. let me know when they have something other than the warmed over NX/RX ev that isn't likely to lead in anything.
as most here know, i drive 2 vehicles:
a 'boring' suv for work, a very nice loaded 2021 hyundai santa fe. but i can't help thinking how i'm looking forward in 2024 to replacing it with an EV.
a 'not boring' coupe for fun, a gorgeous loaded 2021 Lexus LC500. i know many lots it sound under load, but that's not that interesting to me, but while it couldn't out accelerate a model 3, it's plenty fast enough for me, handles, steers and brakes fantastically (for me) and is very comfortable too. but i can't help wondering when i replace the suv with an EV, will i just decide i'm done with gasoline, oil, noise, etc? i don't know right now, i do thoroughly enjoy the LC even though i don't drive it much. one reason i got it is because v8's will go away in the next few years and there's something nostalgic about driving it.
as for new ICE vehicles... i just don't see anything interesting and there's not likely to be anything interesting because all the big money is going into EVs.
vast r&d money is now being poured into EVs.
from EV reviews, it's clear they're quiet, handle great, are VERY versatile, and for people who can charge at home, there's little if any down side, except maybe for long trips in certain places, but even that 'issue' will fade as tons of new charge stations come online and charging gets faster and range gets better.
remember getting excited about that raucous new sports car? with all that sound came 'great' performance, for its time. now most EVs laugh and say "not impressed".
easy to forget about VW in the u.s. but they're a vast manufacturer and they are going crazy trying to launch EVs across their brands.
the ford f-150 lightning is BY FAR Ford's most important upcoming vehicle introduction.
Rivian, Tesla, Lucid with huge valuations and sucking most of the media oxygen.
Toyota has just done a giant "don't forget about us" presentation that was largely hot air. let me know when they have something other than the warmed over NX/RX ev that isn't likely to lead in anything.
as most here know, i drive 2 vehicles:
a 'boring' suv for work, a very nice loaded 2021 hyundai santa fe. but i can't help thinking how i'm looking forward in 2024 to replacing it with an EV.
a 'not boring' coupe for fun, a gorgeous loaded 2021 Lexus LC500. i know many lots it sound under load, but that's not that interesting to me, but while it couldn't out accelerate a model 3, it's plenty fast enough for me, handles, steers and brakes fantastically (for me) and is very comfortable too. but i can't help wondering when i replace the suv with an EV, will i just decide i'm done with gasoline, oil, noise, etc? i don't know right now, i do thoroughly enjoy the LC even though i don't drive it much. one reason i got it is because v8's will go away in the next few years and there's something nostalgic about driving it.
as for new ICE vehicles... i just don't see anything interesting and there's not likely to be anything interesting because all the big money is going into EVs.
#2
I'm really sold on the Encore GX....absolutely love it for my daily-driving needs in spite of the somewhat gruffy three-banger at low revs. But I'd also be very open to a Hybrid, Plug-in-Hybrid or full-electric vision of the GX.....particularly if we can get adequate re-charging-outlets in my neighborhood, and the local kids don't report to pulling the plugs out as a prank.
#3
Having seen and reviewed a new Genesis GV70, I wouldn't be surprised if you took one of those home next time, particularly if Genesis gets around to a hybrid or full-BEV version of it.
Last edited by mmarshall; 12-20-21 at 01:05 PM.
#4
If I wasn't transitioning to EV, these would be the following cars on my list:
New:
LC500
RCF
IS500
2021 IS350 F-Sport
Used:
4th Gen GSF
2010-2011 ISF
8th or 9th Gen Honda Accord Sport V6 with 5 Speed Manual
New:
LC500
RCF
IS500
2021 IS350 F-Sport
Used:
4th Gen GSF
2010-2011 ISF
8th or 9th Gen Honda Accord Sport V6 with 5 Speed Manual
#5
There are PLENTY of brand new ICE cars I’m excited to drive and hope to purchase some of them.
- BRZ / 86
- Nissan Z
- GT4RS
- GT3
- 911 GTS
- Lotus Emira
- MB SL55/63
- BMW M2
- Corvette Z06
There are Zero EV cars that i would consider at this point to replace any of my existing cars.
- BRZ / 86
- Nissan Z
- GT4RS
- GT3
- 911 GTS
- Lotus Emira
- MB SL55/63
- BMW M2
- Corvette Z06
There are Zero EV cars that i would consider at this point to replace any of my existing cars.
#6
There are PLENTY of brand new ICE cars I’m excited to drive and hope to purchase some of them.
- BRZ / 86
- Nissan Z
- GT4RS
- GT3
- 911 GTS
- Lotus Emira
- MB SL55/63
- BMW M2
- Corvette Z06
There are Zero EV cars that i would consider at this point to replace any of my existing cars.
- BRZ / 86
- Nissan Z
- GT4RS
- GT3
- 911 GTS
- Lotus Emira
- MB SL55/63
- BMW M2
- Corvette Z06
There are Zero EV cars that i would consider at this point to replace any of my existing cars.
#7
from EV reviews, it's clear they're quiet, handle great, are VERY versatile, and for people who can charge at home, there's little if any down side, except maybe for long trips in certain places, but even that 'issue' will fade as tons of new charge stations come online and charging gets faster and range gets better.
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Did you know that VW has surpassed Tesla in EV sales?
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 12-20-21 at 01:42 PM.
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#8
For me, ICEV is the past.
However, it is still too early for me to purchase EV's.
0-60 drags are immature and not practical with real consumers.
Consumers want vehicles that are properly engineered, properly manufactured and properly assembled like the top selling passenger RAV4 and luxury RX.
EV's are presently only in their infancy, with tremendous room to grow.
However, it is still too early for me to purchase EV's.
0-60 drags are immature and not practical with real consumers.
Consumers want vehicles that are properly engineered, properly manufactured and properly assembled like the top selling passenger RAV4 and luxury RX.
EV's are presently only in their infancy, with tremendous room to grow.
#9
I wonder how interested they would be if there were a tax on EV charing? Definitely will be coming one day. I believe the costs to go green and charge cars will be far more expensive in the future as they will need lots of $$$ for the roads.
It is interesting to watch the Tesla stock. It is now under $900
It is interesting to watch the Tesla stock. It is now under $900
The whole market is down, all my stocks including Apple are down, market is correcting. This is actually a great time to buy Tesla stock, as it will go back up
#10
We already pay a $100 tax a year when we register our cars which covers for the lost gas tax. I'm adding additional solar panels to my roof which will give me the capacity to generate 190 percent over my current use, so what are they going to tax me for, sun light? LOL if they do that than I'll just move to a rural area in Texas or Alabama and live off the grid
#12
For me, ICEV is the past.
However, it is still too early for me to purchase EV's.
0-60 drags are immature and not practical with real consumers.
Consumers want vehicles that are properly engineered, properly manufactured and properly assembled like the top selling passenger RAV4 and luxury RX.
EV's are presently only in their infancy, with tremendous room to grow.
However, it is still too early for me to purchase EV's.
0-60 drags are immature and not practical with real consumers.
Consumers want vehicles that are properly engineered, properly manufactured and properly assembled like the top selling passenger RAV4 and luxury RX.
EV's are presently only in their infancy, with tremendous room to grow.
Back to non-EV's. I'm very practical about the vehicles I buy, I'm not the type to buy a $100K plus BMW, Porsche etc, and because I'm all about reliability and keeping the cars I buy for long term (10 years plus), for ICE my choice is always going to be Toyota/Lexus. If I did decide to spend the $100K plus it would definitely be an LC500
Last edited by AMIRZA786; 12-20-21 at 01:57 PM.
#15
Yep, I have to agree with you. I hate all the downsized engines. Some of them may produce a lot of power and torque, but they sound like sewing machines. And that fricken artificial sound they pump from the speakers. God