Hyundai shuts down main ICE development center
12-25-21, 05:04 PM
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12-25-21, 07:05 PM
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To give a bigger picture. HMG is not merely swapping out departments, they're making a massive sweep across the entire company's leadership pool to make the brand "younger." You would never see something like this take place with the Japanese brands.
The engines were due to a manufacturing issue in their Alabama plant with faulty machining, not the design itself. The Theta II problems are pretty much exclusive to North America. And the subsequent recalls are because they screwed up the repair of the first recalls...
The engines were due to a manufacturing issue in their Alabama plant with faulty machining, not the design itself. The Theta II problems are pretty much exclusive to North America. And the subsequent recalls are because they screwed up the repair of the first recalls...
12-25-21, 07:18 PM
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Because the game was rigged against them from the beginning. Other auto makers that produced ICE autos had to sell a bunch of EVs just to break even and not be fined. Since Tesla was all-EV from the start, every car they created generated credits, so they ended up with a huge surplus, which they were allowed to sell to ICE automakers at a huge profit.
12-25-21, 07:41 PM
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and i disagree. Toyota and honda at times have had significant issues with particular engines too. I had a genesis 3.3TT and now a 2.5T and they're both excellent.Because the game was rigged against them from the beginning. Other auto makers that produced ICE autos had to sell a bunch of EVs just to break even and not be fined. Since Tesla was all-EV from the start, every car they created generated credits, so they ended up with a huge surplus, which they were allowed to sell to ICE automakers at a huge profit.
12-25-21, 07:58 PM
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12-25-21, 08:07 PM
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12-25-21, 08:13 PM
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Hyundai had a relatively short period of designing their own ICEs, which were derived from Mitsubishi engines. I'm too lazy to look it up, but I'm sure Mitsubishi engines also derived from someone else, much like early Toyota engines were GM engines built by Toyota under GM license.
12-25-21, 08:16 PM
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Because the game was rigged against them from the beginning. Other auto makers that produced ICE autos had to sell a bunch of EVs just to break even and not be fined. Since Tesla was all-EV from the start, every car they created generated credits, so they ended up with a huge surplus, which they were allowed to sell to ICE automakers at a huge profit.
Hyundai gets it they have halted all further ICE development and have some great EVs coming into the market.
12-25-21, 08:16 PM
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Hyundai has been making their own engines for 25 years now. Hyundais prior to that didn't just use Mitsubishi engines, they were literally rebadged or reshelled Mitsubishis, just like older Kias were just rebadged Fords and Mazdas.
12-25-21, 08:27 PM
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That's just plain wrong. The most problematic Hyundai engines were the Theta II from the mid 2010s. By then there was zero Mitsubishi, and like I said before, a manufacturing rather than a design error. And never has any Hyundai engine came from a Chrysler.
12-25-21, 08:41 PM
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90s Hyundais were mostly rebadged Mitsubishis, with cheaper parts and crappier build quality and bodies that would rust out in zero time. The engineering wasn't the main issue, it was the third-world quality in which these rebadged Mitsubishis were built from Korea. It was in the 2000s after the merger of Hyundai/Kia that they took action to bring their manufacturing level to that of a developed country, which was a reflection of South Korea's own transition to becoming a first world country at the time.
12-25-21, 08:53 PM
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Ok we can quit debating '90s hyundais/mitsubishi/chrysler junk, thanks.